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Title: Blue-Throat : finally finnished; f.d. pic. added
Post by: dragonman on November 14, 2009, 02:45:49 pm
, I posted unfinnished pics of this bow 5-6 months ago, it has been balanced/tillered with heat and pressure and decorated and the sinew has had nearly 8 months to dry. This bow is the practice run to my first horn bow. If I knew what I know now , I would have stressed the bow much more, it should have more reflex and be 6 inchs shorter, to get the best out of these materials ( I believe) . But still , it is a reasonable shooter, it feels steady with not much hand shock. but I know the potential is there for more speed and power!!
It has a bamboo back, very thin ipe core and 3 layers of Scottish red stag leg tendon/sinew. 56" ntn. nearly 1 1/2" wide for most of the limb. The siyas are taken from a natural bend in a piece of Welsh oak, and the glue was made of cow hide. It shoots about 58lbs at 27"
I glued several sinew wraps down the limbs because as the sinew dried and shrank it caused a few longitudinal splits in the bamboo , i thought the wraps would be a good precaution, but now I think them unnecessary , I just lacked faith in the hide glue.
after unstringing it returns to about 7" of reflex in a few hours.
    I didn'y copy any specific style of bow , just used what I had and it turned out like this. I guess that a bow like this could have been  made any where in asia!!!



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Post by: kylerprochaska on November 14, 2009, 02:51:10 pm
Beautiful!  I want to see that thing at full draw!

-Ky
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Post by: Pat B on November 14, 2009, 02:56:02 pm
Very cool bow!!! 8)
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Post by: dragonman on November 14, 2009, 03:11:35 pm
My full draw pics where'nt so good, I'll take some more and post them  tomorrrow!!
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Post by: zeNBowyer on November 14, 2009, 03:25:34 pm
beautiful  piece  of  work, does  the  grip  feel comfortable?
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Post by: dragonman on November 14, 2009, 03:47:24 pm
Yes, I was suprised, because it  is backwards to what I'm used to, but It feels good in the hand
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Post by: JustAim on November 14, 2009, 05:11:43 pm
Very Very Nice!! What an amazing transformation its gone through from the first time l saw it. Great Job.

Just wondering, how thin is the ipe core?   
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Post by: Justin Snyder on November 14, 2009, 05:25:43 pm
Nice, a couple of questions. What did you use to make the transition between the siyas and limbs. Did you use putty or something to make it flow at the transition.  How about a full draw picture.  ;D
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Post by: Del the cat on November 14, 2009, 05:42:30 pm
Sweet, that's a pretty respectable draw weight, and I'd guess you could pull it waaaay back to 31" if you wanted.
Del
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Post by: dragonman on November 14, 2009, 06:58:40 pm
Justin, the siyas are spliced to the wooden core and the splice is covered with sinew, no need for putty or any filler, just  blend the sinew into the siyah.( I'm gonna take a new full draw pic tomorrow and post it.)
JustAim, the ipe core is  2 1/2mm thick
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Post by: Parnell on November 14, 2009, 07:09:48 pm
Holy Smoke - what work!
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Post by: nugget on November 14, 2009, 07:30:12 pm
Very cool bow. I would love to shoot it.
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Post by: Hoot on November 14, 2009, 07:52:52 pm
You did a great job, what a nice piece of work.
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Post by: Dano on November 14, 2009, 07:58:53 pm
Fantastic bow, I too like the work you put into the siyah's. VERY NICE!!
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Post by: Cromm on November 14, 2009, 08:13:51 pm
Way to go I like the look of that bow!!!
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Post by: aruge on November 14, 2009, 09:53:40 pm
Wonderful workmanship. A beautiful bow.
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Post by: stiknstring on November 14, 2009, 10:02:31 pm
Pretty!
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Post by: Jesse on November 14, 2009, 10:34:20 pm
This bow is a one of a kind piece of art. Colors are unusual for a bow but its nice to see something different. Can't wait to see the full draw.
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Post by: Justin Snyder on November 14, 2009, 10:47:31 pm
Justin, the siyas are spliced to the wooden core and the splice is covered with sinew, no need for putty or any filler, just  blend the sinew into the siyah.( I'm gonna take a new full draw pic tomorrow and post it.)
JustAim, the ipe core is  2 1/2mm thick
Thanks, that was what I wondered. It is so smooth that you cant see the texture from sinew. I wondered if you used a filler or if the paint was thick enough to hide the texture.
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Post by: MaceG on November 15, 2009, 12:14:17 am
Dragonman, you got some mad skillz. ;D
Beautiful, beautiful bow.
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Post by: banoch on November 15, 2009, 12:34:22 am
SUPERB!!!!!!!
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Post by: dragonman on November 15, 2009, 07:34:06 am
heres a full draw pic, The wife just took in our garden
Thanks for the compliments guys I appreciate them. Actually, I think the main difficulty with this type of bow is -patience-, all the individual operations are quite straight forward!!

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Post by: Cooper on November 15, 2009, 08:58:59 am
A very nice bow and fantastic workmanship.
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Post by: Innocente on November 15, 2009, 11:38:09 am
beautiful work, man
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Post by: uwe on November 15, 2009, 11:41:17 am
I agree!
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Post by: radius on November 15, 2009, 12:01:23 pm
Holy Smoke - what work!

Amazing work!  I d k if i have the patience to build bows like that!  This one really rocks, dragonman
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Post by: Josh on November 15, 2009, 12:23:46 pm
Nice Bow!!!  You win!!!  -josh
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Post by: orcbow on November 15, 2009, 12:25:14 pm
That is very impressive, you really have some talent Dragonman. I like the blue color too, we don't see much of blue colored bows.
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Post by: dragonman on November 15, 2009, 12:41:00 pm
Thanks again guys, it's nice to get some feedback for your work, I only know one other bowyer >:(! shown a few friends but they can't relate to what they're looking at  and just look blank ??? only bowyers know whats invoved in making a bow!! but the real credit goes in making a bow with a good performance not just good looks. This one is not bad but coud be better, I reckon one of my boo backed ipe bows is faster!!!
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Post by: zeNBowyer on November 15, 2009, 01:19:18 pm
Do  you  have  any  chronograph stats  yet,  be  interesting to  see what this style  of  bow meters:)
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Post by: dragonman on November 15, 2009, 01:30:33 pm
ZenBowyer, i've been looking to buy a chrono for a while , Don't think they are for sale in UK. ( does anyone know different??)  I'll have to order one from the States. Anyone have one for sale out there?
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Post by: zeNBowyer on November 15, 2009, 01:43:20 pm
You can  get a basic chronograph for just  over  $100,  any  of  thee  major  suppliers,    $200-250+ will  get  you  a  few  bells  and  whistles:) 
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Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 15, 2009, 07:48:38 pm
I like the way your bow bends, nice and fluid
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Post by: mullet on November 15, 2009, 08:14:18 pm
  Chris Cade, Meclesher, Made one like that. It was sinew backed osage. He won BOM with it and said the same thing you are. It shot, Okay, but could be better. That is one pretty bow and I would be proud to make one that nice. Mine broke :P
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Post by: Barrage on November 15, 2009, 08:20:35 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
 Very nice.
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Post by: Keenan on November 15, 2009, 09:13:48 pm
Congratulations on a very beautiful work of art and complicated bow to build.  For your first horn bow, you did awesome. We are often our own worst critics and always learn what we could do better on a bow. But as you have heard from some very experienced bowyers that is an accomplishment to be proud of.       Keenan
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Post by: PatM on November 15, 2009, 10:49:56 pm
Beautiful work. I take it you meant the belly is bamboo? If you wished it was shorter couldn't you just draw it further if you feel it could be stressed more?
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Post by: hawkbow on November 15, 2009, 11:13:01 pm
GREAT JOB, that bow begs to be shot from horseback... way to go..Hawk a/ho
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Post by: Jesse on November 15, 2009, 11:56:19 pm
I said it before I saw the full draw and I'll say it again. That is a piece of art. Bending real nice also ;)
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Post by: Gordon on November 16, 2009, 01:52:27 am
Nicely done!
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Post by: medicinewheel on November 16, 2009, 02:34:03 am
... I take it you meant the belly is bamboo?...

Was wondering, too...??
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Post by: dragonman on November 16, 2009, 05:38:23 am
Thanks again, yes  it is the belly that is bamboo
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Post by: mox1968 on November 16, 2009, 05:47:23 am
wow !! great looking bow , how many hours did you put in to that??
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Post by: dragonman on November 16, 2009, 05:56:48 am
many hours , lost count, took 8 months. These arent the origanal siyas ,one of the first ones broke and nearly hit me in the head, so I soaked off the sinew from the tips and replaced them, its been a long term project!!!
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Post by: Pappy on November 16, 2009, 05:58:46 am
Very nice work,great detail work. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: bootboy on November 16, 2009, 09:42:56 am
WHOAH! that bow is  just insane. Really good work Dragonman!!
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Post by: brownhillboy on November 16, 2009, 02:41:55 pm
Congratulations!!  That's one beautiful bow!  I'm afraid I wouldn't have the patience, or the skills, to make one like that.  Nice job. :)
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Post by: zeNBowyer on November 16, 2009, 03:05:07 pm
Dragonman
Here's a  chrony  for  about  $100

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Post by: dragonman on November 17, 2009, 04:51:11 am
thanks for that link ZenBowyer, I think that chrony, will be good enogh for me, I have to just look into shipping,if that is reasonable I'll get one, and I'll pm you the  arrow speed results!
and thanks again for all the compliments  and encouragement everyone else, the bow just looks harder to make than it is!!!
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Post by: OldBow on November 17, 2009, 11:48:14 am
WELL! This is obviously a major contender for Nov Laminate BOM