Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: Tracker0721 on April 02, 2016, 01:14:11 am
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So Turkey season is coming up and I broke out my ghille suit and was going through the whole shooting while wearing the thing for a few days when I decided to watch some turkey hunting videos. One thing lead to another and in my fragile state I bought a HECs suit. Yeah. 150 bucks on some carbon mesh base layers. Haven't tried it yet but I'm really hoping it works. Why? Cause I don't even tip waitresses I'm so stingy with money and my first impulse buy was 150 bucks when I already have a proven ghille!
For those that don't know HECs suits block the human energy which animals can sense. The 6th sense so to speak. I know it works on sharks and fish. And supposedly it works really well on birds. And it also supposedly works on mammals but the testing isn't as easy as with fish and birds. The idea is that if you aren't moving much at all and wearing the HECs, you look like a lifeless object. Just an odd shaped log/rock/something. So I'm planning to throw it on and go set up on some turkeys before season. See how they react.
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Pretty sure it just blocks odor and thats it. Carbon ( assuming ita activated though non activated works to a degree also ) scrubbs air of any chemicals in it to eliminate smell. Eventually they stop working because the carbon fills up and cant absorb any more.
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Carbon absorbs odors. You can remove those odors with heat...but you have to get it to 1500 deg(F)
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Couldn't tell you anything about the carbon but not tipping waitresses is terrible
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if you hug a tree and roll on the ground you can get the same effect for free,, :)
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HECs is designed like a microwaves door. I researched it a lot when studying marine biology. But when I saw it being used for hunting I jumped on it without looking into it. And maybe restaurants are different where you live but the ones near me pay waitress more then what I made working construction. No one tipped me for making their house.
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HECs is designed like a microwaves door. I researched it a lot when studying marine biology. But when I saw it being used for hunting I jumped on it without looking into it. And maybe restaurants are different where you live but the ones near me pay waitress more then what I made working construction. No one tipped me for making their house.
tipping became a thing back when waitresses were not payed a decent ammount aka minimum wage wasent a "thing" back then. origionally tipping was in fact bribing for better service, but over the years its been twisted and now its believed that a tip is a "reward" for better service, but considering the fact that tipping is a gratuity and its now taxed, its better to just wait till the waitress is off shift to give the tip to them xD
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I gave you rock, that was a tip for the future pizza I may order from you.
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We won't shun you! That long drawn out infomercial tempted the hell out of me too. I am just such a natural born skeptic - I want to hear from some hunters who aren't on the payroll about how well it works. ;) Let us know if you experience any miracles while wearing it next hunting season. Tracker0721, aren't you the guy that started that four page debate about arrow speed in the bows section that got all the math wizards comparing notes?! ;D I think you are in no danger of being shunned.
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They had a 30 minute show! And it was back to back episodes while I was making a string! But all I've found online are people who are so over the top raving about it they have to be on the payroll or people who've never bought one saying it can't work. Maybe I'm the only guy who actually bought one...
Yeah the math debate was way beyond where I thought that post would go.
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While we may not be open, im certain i can convince my parents to let me bake somthing up for ya xD
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Cool, I must be doing something right, shot a boat load at 5 yards and they never smelled me. Heck the one Saturday didn't even smell the Jeep my buddy shot out of when one was standing in the dirt road when we were leaving.
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Comments like that good sir are what make me feel like it was the worst purchase in history! Haha
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It's not a scent elimating carbon. It emlimates the electic pulse our body puts off.
I've seen at least 10 hunting shows of them having all kinds of deer,elk,hogs, you name it. All animals never payed them other than a passing glance. All 5,10 yarders.
But the turkey shows are to unreall for me. A guy setting on his knees 4,5 yards out in a low cut green field. Gobblers strutting around his decoy 10 feet. As he pulled his bow no reaction.
I STARTED FOLLOWING GRANDADDY AROUND WHEN I WAS 7 OR 8. KILLED A JAKE AT 7 A 2 YEAR OLD AT 8. I'M 53 NOW A lot of gobblers fell along the way.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY THING LIKE IT IF IT'S WORKS AS YOU SEE. LOTS OF GOBBLERS WILL DIE.
Personally I think they were tame. Never saw a arrow fly.
If they wern't tame birds. I'll be getting a suit for sure. You keep us posted TRACKER.
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Just an FYI, unless it's specifically different in your town or the restaurant has a progressive policy, the federal minimum wage for waitresses is $2.13. Most waitresses have to give a percentage of the business they do (not the actual tips they make) to the bus boys and hostess etc., so if you do not tip then that waitress has just paid out of her own pocket (lost money) for the privilege of serving you.
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If you ever worked for tips, you would have a different mindset. I always tip! If the service is poor my tip will indicate it. ;)
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Agreed on the tips thing, you may want to double check what they're actually earning because it's ridiculously low and without tips they'd starve, especially since as Urufu said, it's split up amongst the other employees.
As for scent: Birds (with a few exceptions) can't smell even as good as a human does. (that's why owls are one of the few animals that will hunt and eat skunks) As for the carbon blocking electromagenetic waves, it would be interesting to see how/if it works!
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Waitresses here get $2.13 as well. I'm really tight with my money, but if I'm going out to eat, I plan on a healthy tip. If I don't feel like tipping well, I won't go out :). I've not tipped twice in my life and it was for super extreme rude behavior.
I'm really into the magnetic field thing, but I don't know if I'm buying this magnetic suit stuff ;). Regardless, hoping you get your gobbler!
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::) did it come with grounding pads to put into your shoes, and one to sleep on?
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May as well grab a cross-gun, range finder and scouting drone while your at it........
I can shun you more, only if you need more :)
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federal minimum is 7.25, the reason that minimum for waiters/waitresses is because under federal law "The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips."
also "If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. As of May 2012, the average hourly wage – including tips – for a restaurant employee in the United States that received tip income was $11.82."
ide like to add that where i live "the minimum wage for wait staff is $9.32, the average wage is $13.25 after gratuity" which honestly does NOT seem that fair compared to other places out there.
so if your waiter friends are not getting the federal minimum wage of 7.25 per hour when they add up their tips, they are entitled to a pay increase.
on topic, i didnt think carbon would be capable of blocking an electric field that the body emits like that, if thats true then THAT is the future of hunting clothing.
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What you said ^. My little sister worked at the bbq place and made more then I did on the construction crew at 10 an hour.
But I think if it works it'll be the next great thing for wildlife photography. Could you imagine the kinds of pictures you could get? I've always thought my jeans and t-shirt were good enough. Then I got a ghille and that thing is king for getting you in close on the weary deer and turkey around here. Which, we don't have a lot of and our flocks are small. So when you guys talk about shooting so many at once, kinda unfair cause we have tiny groups of 3 wandering. Biggest group in the area I've found is 100-200 birds. HUGE flock. Only issue is they practically live up at the pig farmers eating all of their "bi-products". But usually seeing a flock of 10 or so in a field is about right.
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What you said ^. My little sister worked at the bbq place and made more then I did on the construction crew at 10 an hour.
But I think if it works it'll be the next great thing for wildlife photography. Could you imagine the kinds of pictures you could get? I've always thought my jeans and t-shirt were good enough. Then I got a ghille and that thing is king for getting you in close on the weary deer and turkey around here. Which, we don't have a lot of and our flocks are small. So when you guys talk about shooting so many at once, kinda unfair cause we have tiny groups of 3 wandering. Biggest group in the area I've found is 100-200 birds. HUGE flock. Only issue is they practically live up at the pig farmers eating all of their "bi-products". But usually seeing a flock of 10 or so in a field is about right.
i wonder if it would work for predators. get closeups of lions and bears and stuff.
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I'll let you borrow the suit if you let me film you creeping up on a bear.
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Oh I bet money you can get close. Sneakin out is the trick.
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I'll let you borrow the suit if you let me film you creeping up on a bear.
haha. throw in a shotgun just incase and your on xD