Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: half eye on February 21, 2015, 12:28:16 pm
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Fellas,
I made these arrows for use/display by the Neshnabek up west of Escanaba. The shafts are wild rose that was given to me by Mr. Badly Bent. The heads and specialty flint tools were made by Mr. Dan Hamblin.....I supplied the cussin >:D
Notes on the build:
1. simple straight cut-off's are a lot of work.
2. cutting/grinding the head and string slots is a lot of work.
3. shaping the fletch is some kinda work
Anyway here are the pics. If there is any questions please ask as I dont know what all to cover in the header.
One side note is that the stone tool cuts a PERFECT slot for setting the head, so tight in fact that pitch is not necessary.
rich
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more pics
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here's some more
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Outstanding work Rich...Beautiful arrows :o 8) I know how much work goes into making primitive arrows but with stone tools that is amazing...They are definitely hunt worthy sir...
Don
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Very well done sir! Did you just use the split piece to cut the feathers to size? That is a good idea if so. Did you glue the fletchings on? I like the finish as well. A lot of work I'm sure but it makes you appreciate what our ancestors did. Patrick
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A couple things I forgot....
1. No rulers used, the arrows are 2 and a half spans (one way to measure, the other being from the crook of the elbo,down and around the widdle finger and back to the wrist) Interestingly enough on me that makes arrows exactly the same size.
2. I made @ arrow on a seperate day to see if the hand measurements are accurate for making a "set" of arrows....the pictures kind tell you yest they are.
3. The red riband is one span long.
4. The feathers in the pic with the holder are done two ways the one in the stick is burned, the loose one was cut....both using the twig-jig.
A point of curiosity is this. I read a military report from one Captain Burke (extensively quoted by national museums) where he corrected himself by saying first....." the length of the bow, or rather the string is........". On the bow I posted the bow is 5 and 1/2 spans long and the string is exactly 5 spans long, with the arrows being 2-1/2 spans the proportions are spot on as far as I'm concerned.
enjoy the pics fellas.
rich
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Leb, yest the great lakes arrows were three fletch and glued down as well as hafted. The most common way was putting pitch into and incised grove then setting the feather and then wrapping. I used some gummy sap, no grove, and just enough to hold them till they were wrapped.
(told I didn't do it "right")
rich
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Great info bud! I was wondering about the groove. I've seen them done like that before. I plan on one day making a set of more primitive style arrows. (with modern tools :laugh:) I really like the split piece being used as a fletch burning jig. Thanks for posting! Patrick
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Very attractive finished arrows Rich. If I were to make any using those methods I believe I would be real picky about what I choose to to shoot at, wouldn't want to break or lose one of those. Cutting those notches and shaping those feathers must be time consuming, plus they just look so good it would hurt to have one broken or lost. Nicely done!
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B2, funny you should mention that, they are enough work that I understand perfectly why they wanted ALL of there arrow back, even if ya had to track the deer down and beat him to do it ;D ::)
rich
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8) Awesome!
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Great work, thanks for the pictures!
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Very nice work...
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Mr. Crafty, Sockrablur, and Roy....thank you fellas. Like I said.....after ya make them this way ya know why they was held real precious.....not so much to not use, but not used carelessly either.
Hey B2, I'm makin a few more and fully intend to "send em" if the whitetails co=operate this year. I got no class at all.... 8)
rich
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Really cool Rich
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Way cool - nice work ! Bob
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Nice looking arrows.
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Aaron, Bob, and Rob thank you fellas, glad ya liked 'em.
rich
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You were right Rich, I do like the build pics of the arrows. Rose shafts are challenging by themselves with modern techniques. You make a real fine arrow! Really like mr. Hamblins points too
Tracy
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Tracy, I've killed my last 3 deer with Dan's points and all of 'em went slam through that includes a little 42# shorty made by Don Carter. When ya consider that they are all real hard chert/flint and he makes mine ABO I'm truely impressed with the mans work (ya never would have guessed would ya ::)).
The rose is hard to straighten so I do it on the average.....like a snaky stave line up the fore and aft with a majority of the middle. Not scientific but they fly real well for me.
rich
PS: I think the native red osier, and the arrowwood viburnum is easier to work but these rose shafts seem to be real tough.
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Awesome work Rich. Those arrows are amazing, and your devotion to doing it the old way is really something. There is more work in a quiver full of arrows done that way than there is in making two bows!
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Very nice work Rich, you just seem to do what ever you want very well, amazing. :)
Pappy
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Thanks brother, I consider it fun....believe it not
Thank you Pappy always appreciate your opinion. Dont know about everything good though usually all I see is what I done wrong. Thank you all the same.
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I've always said it's harder to make a useable arrow than it is a bow.
THOSE HEADS ARE SWEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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Amazing primitive arrows Rich. Absolutely right on. And you sure make my points look good. Attention to detail and authenic reproduction processes amaze me.
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Dan, bustin rock is hard, tools or heads....the rest is the easy part. Love your points sir!!!!
rich