Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: DC on September 03, 2018, 05:36:42 pm
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Last couple of days I've been messing with arrows. It's a couple of weeks until the range opens(closes for the summer) and I thought i would get a few straight shooters ready. I have one that shoots high. At 20yds it will be 1-2 feet higher than the rest. 50 shots or more. FOC is the same as the rest. Fletch are all the same side. Checked the straightness on my lathe and it's as good or better than the rest. Is it possible that it has a long slow wobble that ends up with it being almost always high at 20yds? I have no qualms about breaking it over my knee but I thought someone might have an idea. I did try one shot with the cock feather in and it flew better but I may have aimed low. I should try more of that.
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Sounds like the nock may be out of alignment.
DBar
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It actually looks like one of my best nocks as far as centering and alignment. I'll try shooting it some more today.
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a foot high at 20 is quite a bit- I would refletch it.
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I would rip the fletch off and shoot it. 1-2 feet high at 20 yards is close to a 1/2 mile off :)
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Make a fluflu out of it. ;)
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I can make a set of perfectly matched arrows, one or two will always be disappointment.
I have tried to recut the nock taper to get them to fly right but nothing works.
I was shooting the other day and was shooting consistently high and left. I only shoot one arrow, retrieve it and shoot again. I was thinking I was having a really bad day then decided to change arrows, bingo! I was back to being spot on again.
If I can't tame an errant arrow, off it goes to my ever expanding dead arrow pile.
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You would think that after 10,000 years there would be a "this causes that" list for arrows. ;D But it just seems that if it don't work "chuck it or give it to the enemy" seems to be the only fix.
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Hi DC, I haven't been on the board for a long while but I
've been keeping up with things. There's a simple fix to your problem. I call it field tuning. Reason your arrows is hitting high is because you have a stiff side of the shaft oriented down on the shelf. Simple fix is to flex that side down (center of shaft) using hand pressure to slightly weaken it.
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Hi Art. That makes sense but I have a question. I shoot off my knuckle so shouldn't I feel the arrow go by if it's stiff down? I'm assuming it's going high in your scenario because it's whacking off the shelf. I checked the spine and it is a touch higher one way.
Oh that would explain why it seems to shoot a little better cock in.
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Just like an arrow that flexes around a handles it also flexes over the hand or shelf ( to certain extent) from the initial thrust of the release of the string. Think of it in these terms, if an arrow is too stiff it flies wide. Same with an arrow that is to stiff on the shelf/hand side. It could be other issues like the nock or bent/weak nock end of the shaft. But if you flip the arrow over and it shoots low then look into weakening the shelf side.
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Hey Art. Good to see you here. :OK Hey to the old gang for me.
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Good to see you here too Pat! Will be seeing the gang this weekend for a shoot. Will say hello for you.
DC, if you have a spine tester, check the deflection right in front of the fletching (hang your weight here) against one of your arrows that flies true.
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Cut a new nock 90 degrees. Sounds like the stiff side isnt against the bow.
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The spine is the same at all positions within a pound or two. I'll try checking the spine close to the fletch but this is a tapered Hemlock shaft and the others are Bamboo. If that makes any diff.
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Artsy fartsy is back! I think about you often my old friend.
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so, you checked the spine all around and found little difference. So it's not a spine issue. Have you refletched?
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I haven't refletched. When I get this far into an arrow problem I would rather throw it out than refletch. I've got more sticks than I have feathers and I would hate to refletch and find I still have a problem. I don't learn anything with that attitude but sometimes you have to put a limit on things. I may change my attitude with this one but I'll have to think about it.
One other thing I'm not sure off is the offset of the fletch. I have left wing feathers on it and they are offset. Looking from the nock end the front of the fletch is to the left. Is that right or have I got the offset backward?
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Have you shot it without feathers? Its the only way you will know what its doing.
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Hi Chris, good to see you're still around!
Well DC, if all the others are bamboo and you're shooting one hemlock, then perhaps the boos group differently than the hemlock. Nothing more than that perhaps. I certainly won't trash it. May shoot perfect out of another bow. Is your hemlock shaft well seasoned?
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Yes it's well seasoned. A couple of years as 1/2"x 1/2".
Good point PD. On the way to the garbage can I may as well bare shaft it and see.
I've actually shot it from a couple or three bows and it shoots high on all of them.