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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Pat B on December 28, 2011, 01:29:27 pm

Title: Arrow wrenches
Post by: Pat B on December 28, 2011, 01:29:27 pm
  After reading Kay Koppedrayer's article on straightening cane arrows in the newest PA I decided to give them a try. Below is my arrow making kit. The arrow wrenches I previously made have a tendancy to indent the hot shaft while straightening. I generally only use an arrow wrench for bad kinks in the shaft or near the end where I can't get good leverage...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/arrowmakingtools002.jpg)

  After reading the article I decided to make a few of the type of arrow wrenches they used. I made two, one osage(probably too hard) and the other ERC. You will note the releaved areas on opposite ends and opposite sides of the cutout. These should prevent the maring or denting of the hot shafts. I haven't tried them yet but will give them a goo check out when arrow making time gets here.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/arrowwrenches007.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/arrowwrenches005.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/arrowwrenches004.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/arrowwrenches003.jpg)
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: artcher1 on December 28, 2011, 01:41:05 pm
Nice tools Pat! I don't use anything like that myself, mostly burnish mine straight using an old insulator.
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: Bevan R. on December 28, 2011, 01:43:34 pm
I was looking at that article and thinking that those could be usefull for shafting other that just bamboo. Have any of you SHOOT shaft makers used anything like this?
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: nugget on December 28, 2011, 01:55:02 pm
Pat I have one similar to those you made. Knightd made it for me a couple years ago. It works great, but does have a tendency to dent the shaft if put in a bind.
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: Pat B on December 28, 2011, 01:57:18 pm
You mean one of these, Art?
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/arrowwrenches011.jpg)

Bevan, I rarely use a wrench for straightening shafts but in some situations, with sharp bends or at the end of the shaft where I can't get leverage I will use one. All of my arrows are either cane or hardwood shoots so these tools come in handy when needed.
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: artcher1 on December 28, 2011, 02:20:08 pm
That's it Pat.
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: artcher1 on December 28, 2011, 02:23:41 pm
Forgot to mention, heat the shaft, lay on a flat surface with the high side up and burnish away. You won't kink anything using this method.
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: bowtarist on December 28, 2011, 02:25:49 pm
Thanks for the post Pat.  Looks simple enough, I'll have to give it a try.  I been wearing gloves.
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: JackCrafty on December 28, 2011, 02:42:59 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: Pat B on December 28, 2011, 02:57:18 pm
Patrick, I always wondered how you got your arrows straight. If you use it between your teeth you will mar them less!  ;D
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: JackCrafty on December 28, 2011, 04:24:21 pm
I need to lose a few more teeth first...hahah
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: crooketarrow on January 01, 2012, 04:06:06 pm
   I just bend between my thumbs or use my knee no kinks this way. I rarely use a wrench when it comes to heating I barnish my shafes. Barnishing takes out kinks. If it's so bad I can take it out by barnishing I uselly don't cut it..
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: tenbrook on January 04, 2012, 11:32:33 am
Nice tools Pat! I don't use anything like that myself, mostly burnish mine straight using an old insulator.

Could someone explain this process to me?

thanks

tenbrook
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: artcher1 on January 04, 2012, 12:59:39 pm
It's a simple procedure Tenbrook. Heat the area to be straightened, and using some type of burnishing tool, burnish that area with the high side up. You're compressing the fibers on the high side and stretching the fibers on the reverse side........Art
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: JackCrafty on January 04, 2012, 07:02:51 pm
This is the way I straighten reed.  I use my hands (with gloves on) and also an arrow wrench.  The same basic principles apply to straightening shoots and cane also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=rd4aWsvcOnk
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: sadiejane on January 06, 2012, 12:16:23 pm
found this one online...
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/O_337.jpg)
attributed to:

ARROW SHAFT STRAIGHTENER
NORTH AMERICAN ETHNOGRAPHIC COLLECTION
Catalog No: O/ 337
Culture: ESKIMO
Locale: AK, NORTHWEST ARCTIC BOROUGH, KOTZEBUE SOUND
Regions: NORTHWEST COAST, ARCTIC COAST
Country: USA
Material: IVORY, METAL
Dimensions: L:14 W:4 H:2 [in CM]
Acquisition Year: 1894 (EXPEDITION)
Donor: EMMONS, GEORGE T., LT.

if you have some time on yr hands....
http://anthro.amnh.org/north (http://anthro.amnh.org/north)
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: sadiejane on January 06, 2012, 02:08:35 pm
these are the ones id love to find, trade for, or make. been looking for the right stone to make one. havent found "the" one yet
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/1_2620.jpg)
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: Bevan R. on January 06, 2012, 02:18:36 pm
Sadie,
Those are sandstone, Yes?
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: sadiejane on January 06, 2012, 03:17:54 pm
Sadie,
Those are sandstone, Yes?

appears to be. but they are not mine. image found on museum site online.(link posted above with arrow wrench)
picked up some red oklahoma sandstone at ojam last year.
but that stuff is way too soft.
think it might make good pigment tho.
it just turns to dust when you try to use it.
will stumble upon the "just right" one of these days.
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: sadiejane on January 07, 2012, 02:45:24 pm
hope you guys dont mind i keep posting these. but been working my way thru that website and am amazed by some of the items shown there.
another shaft wrench:
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/502_1606.jpg)

ARROW WRENCH
NORTH AMERICAN ETHNOGRAPHIC COLLECTION
Catalog No: 50.2/ 1607 Field No: 216
Culture: HAVASUPAI
Locale: AZ
Regions: BASIN, SOUTHWEST
Country: USA
Material: HORN (SHEEP)
Dimensions: L:18.5 W:6 H:3.5 [in CM]
Acquisition Year: 1919 (EXPEDITION)
Donor: SPIER, LESLIE
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: Pat B on January 07, 2012, 02:47:00 pm
Keep them coming Sadie. Good stuff!  8)
Title: Re: Arrow wrenches
Post by: ErictheViking on January 08, 2012, 12:11:03 am
great pics Sadie keep them rolling in. Thanks