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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Academonicon on March 01, 2015, 09:23:55 pm

Title: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Academonicon on March 01, 2015, 09:23:55 pm
I decided to finally try a couple new things: siyahs on a bow, and splicing parts together.  I had initially thought about splicing siyahs onto an oak flatbow, but after some consideration and a little advice from you fine people, I thought better of that idea.  I happened to have a piece of hickory that promised to be more more forgiving, and so I decided to go with that.  From start to finish, this build was fun and surprisingly successful every step of the way.

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This bow, made for a friend, is my best work so far. I'm really proud of how well this came together, especially considering that I've never done siyahs on a bow before. I will definitely be doing it again in the future. The tiller is very even, it took less than an inch of set, it shoots quietly and accurately, and thanks to the siyahs, the early-draw is light, which makes the whole draw *really* comfortable. Plus, it's hickory, so it should last a good long time.

Specs:
64" hickory longbow, including 4" siyahs
51# at 27"
Static handle of hickory and oak
Black leather corset-grip on the handle; tips painted with spray-paint finish, whole bow coated in 2 layers of tung oil.
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: pincushin on March 01, 2015, 09:59:28 pm
nice..... looks nice all around
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 01, 2015, 11:17:40 pm
Very impressive. Nicely done!
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on March 02, 2015, 02:27:57 am
Nice work, that's a cool looking bow.  Is whisper meaning no handshock?  Good tiller, and I like the paint on the siyahs, that really makes 'em pop.
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: crooketarrow on March 02, 2015, 02:38:31 am
  HICKORY my favoret white wood.
 I've built umpteen hickory bows.
 Hope I get to build many more..
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: blackhawk on March 02, 2015, 06:39:23 am
Nice job!!! Looks smooth from here :)
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Aaron H on March 02, 2015, 07:26:09 am
Great looking bend
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 02, 2015, 07:44:48 am
Spotless tiller
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: SLIMBOB on March 02, 2015, 07:57:30 am
Nice work.
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: PatM on March 02, 2015, 07:58:26 am
I like everything except the grain configuration in the tips. Is it really running straight across?
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Parnell on March 02, 2015, 11:43:31 am
That's cool, great tiller.  Would you change anything if you were to do it again.  Can you post a shot of where the strings are laying down over your siyah when braced?
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Academonicon on March 02, 2015, 11:56:43 am
Thanks everyone!

PatM: Yeah, unfortunately the shape of the piece of hickory I had on hand necessitated that the siyahs be cut that way.  The direction of pressure pushes down roughly perpendicular to the grain though, since the siyahs are at such a sharp angle, so I'm not too concerned about it.

Parnell: I'll try and get a photo of that uploaded shortly.
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Academonicon on March 02, 2015, 11:58:01 am
Peacebow: Yep, "Whisper" was the name I landed on after finding how quiet and smooth the bow shot.  Hand-shock is almost nonexistent.
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Academonicon on March 02, 2015, 01:04:28 pm
Here you go, Parnell:

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Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: mikekeswick on March 02, 2015, 02:16:23 pm
Well done on trying something new and it working :)
Pat is right about the grain on the tips though. They are very weak like this, hopefully they hold but be careful to never drop it on them! An easy way to get suitable wood is to look for where a biggish branch comes off a trunk or just look for a piece with an appropriate curve to it. Split them in half and square up. You can of course tweak the shape with a little steam with no risk of breakage/splinters lifting etc.
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Sidewinder on March 02, 2015, 02:31:26 pm
Really nice job on the tiller. I'm glad the siyahs worked out for you. It looks like from your tiller you have it figured out. Its nice when you can have some sucess and build your confidence to try for more. Look forward to seeing some more of your work in the future.   Danny
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Onebowonder on March 02, 2015, 02:39:01 pm
Well done on trying something new and it working :)
Pat is right about the grain on the tips though. They are very weak like this, hopefully they hold but be careful to never drop it on them! An easy way to get suitable wood is to look for where a biggish branch comes off a trunk or just look for a piece with an appropriate curve to it. Split them in half and square up. You can of course tweak the shape with a little steam with no risk of breakage/splinters lifting etc.

...or alternately, one might split these same siyahs down the middle and laminate in a thin bit of bone or hardwood with an opposite grain pattern down the middle. 

Great job taking this bow thru to completion.  I have one like it that I've sort of given up on but keep meaning to get back to someday!  My glue lines were not perfect in the splice so I have re-work to do on them.

OneBow
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: PatM on March 02, 2015, 02:51:46 pm
 The option of cutting down the center is feasible but you'd have to be very careful to not split the sides right off while fitting the insert.
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/pat_05/IMG_1797_zps41a28895.jpg)
 
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: bubby on March 02, 2015, 03:11:54 pm
Clamp it at the bottom of the cut and fit the bone or whatever in just like a footed shaft
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: Academonicon on March 02, 2015, 03:39:13 pm
Thanks for the advice!  Definitely got some things to think about for the next one.
Title: Re: "Whisper" - a success story (a lot of pics)
Post by: PatM on March 02, 2015, 03:43:03 pm
Clamp it at the bottom of the cut and fit the bone or whatever in just like a footed shaft
But a footed shaft has linear grain,