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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: 8up on September 05, 2007, 09:34:38 pm

Title: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: 8up on September 05, 2007, 09:34:38 pm
After gluing them on how do you blend them into the back of the bow? I have fought with this on the other bows I have built. So come on guys tell me how you go about blending them in.

Thanks, Ron
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: mullet on September 05, 2007, 09:58:57 pm
  I start out with a file and then fine tune with a Dremel with the small sanding drum.
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: cowboy on September 05, 2007, 10:03:33 pm
Thanks Ron - this'll help me. I've done a couple with a file, and they looked pretty good I thought. Sounds like I may have to break out the dremel :)
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: medicinewheel on September 05, 2007, 11:22:18 pm

hi ron!  -  maybe you want to check my overlay build-along:

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,1729.0.html

frank
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: waterlogged on September 05, 2007, 11:48:11 pm
Ok, apparently I'm the only lazy person here... I taper the overlay with a beltsander before I glue it on. Quick, and turns out well if you do it carefully.
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: 8up on September 05, 2007, 11:51:37 pm
Frank I found your post after I posted this. You make beautiful tips. I am trying to figure out how and which tools you use to blend the overlays to the back of the bow towards the handlewithout gouging the back
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: Pat B on September 06, 2007, 12:06:30 am
Ron you will have to remove some wood from the tips just to flatten them to match the flat overlay glue surface. Your glue surfaces have to be flat...or matched perfectly. I usually start with a limb tip that is wider than the final tip, glue on the overlay and reduce the tip to its final shape. If you pre-shape the overlays before hand you get a cleaner finish later(at least I do).     Pat
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: 8up on September 06, 2007, 12:34:24 am
The dremel tool sounds like the ticket. I have no problem with the sides  its just this area

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j147/65whiteFastback/tip.jpg)
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: Pat B on September 06, 2007, 12:38:11 am
I feather that area before I glue it down.    Pat
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: Pappy on September 06, 2007, 05:53:43 am
I do like waterlogged,just thin them to a sharp edge before I glue. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: MattE on September 06, 2007, 08:09:39 am
What works best for me is to make my tip overlays on the end of a 3/4" X 3/4" any comfortable length over 6" long piece of hard wood. After I have a nice thin taper I cut it off and sand the bottom to remove saw marks. Now I only have to dress down the sides to fit to the width of my bow tips. You can get as fine a taper as you desire this way.
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: possum on September 06, 2007, 09:35:18 am
Wow, I just file.  When I get into the back a little I just sand it smooth.  I sand at the end anyway.  But I suppose if you have thin rings it may be a little different.

possum
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: medicinewheel on September 06, 2007, 12:26:11 pm

i use file and mainly drawblade and REALLY try hard not to hit the bowwood at all, later i sand and that's it.
frank
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 06, 2007, 01:09:09 pm
I usually use the Dremel/sanding drum, too, and finish with hand sanding.
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: mullet on September 06, 2007, 08:43:34 pm
8up,To keep from gouging the wood in front of the tips with the file and Dremell,I lay a coupling of strips of masking tape at the glue line.That way I have a little warning to go slower when I start nicking the tape.
Title: Re: Tip Overlays ?
Post by: tradrick on September 07, 2007, 12:12:30 pm
I'm very glad this was posted.I had problems getting my tip overlays smooth.Never did get'em the way I wanted them.I have a Dremel.Don't know why I did'nt think of that before ??? tradrick