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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: n2everythg on July 06, 2009, 10:06:46 pm

Title: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: n2everythg on July 06, 2009, 10:06:46 pm
spent the last week up in MI on vaca. did a bit of caving in IN on the way up. floated a river, did some fishing and visiting with relatives. Nice vaca.

while I was up there went over to my grandparents house. They have been dead now a couple years but my uncle lives there and they are still cleaning out the place. Ya gotta understand. 3 generations lived in this same house and it is kinda like a museum. Especially the attic.

Anyway. earlier when I was showing my folks the knapped arrowheads that I and some of Y'all did and explaining about the different point types. my mom told me about some artifacts that were just kicking around in that old house that no one in the family was really interested in. said there was a box of points and some big stones. Course I got really interested real quick.

So on our way to see the fireworks that night we stopped in. couldnt locate the box of arrow heads and my mom said she would keep looking and set them aside for me if she could locate them but check out what I did score. Not the same as finding them myself out in the field but still.....

Only problem is I have no history of them at all. where found or when. My grandma and great grandma were always taking notes, recording stuff and sticking it on things like pictures and objects. but nothing on these. However, probably somewhere in that old house my grandma has written down what ever she knew about the artifacts.

I know the one is a celt and the one is an axe that was prob hafted at one point. however the other 2 I have no idea. Maybe the big one is a hoe? it is 18 " long and prob 2 thick. almost looks like petrified bone as it has striations or some form of grainy look. but the end where chipped looks like a regular rock. BTW - that ruler in the pic is 18" long. The other could be a hand axe? No idea. Any info is appreciated. My Overstreet doenst do any artifacts 'cept points. Looks like I need some new books.

later.
wade

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Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: mullet on July 06, 2009, 10:26:09 pm
 Nice Chisels, Adz's, hammer stones and Full- Groove Axes. You have some treasures in very good shape, Wade.
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: boo on July 06, 2009, 10:49:52 pm
Some neat stuff Wade, and sounds like you had a great time. Welcome back
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: El Destructo on July 06, 2009, 10:52:25 pm
Wade....the Adze and Axe Head.... look to me to be Michigan Granite
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: PeteDavis on July 06, 2009, 11:15:37 pm
Great pieces!
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: madcrow on July 07, 2009, 12:53:27 am
Those definately belong in a case.  Nice.
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: Hillbilly on July 07, 2009, 07:27:38 am
Exceptionally nice celt and full-grooved axe. The long one is interesting, not sure what it is. I think the other one is a ......rock.
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: n2everythg on July 07, 2009, 10:01:06 am
Thanks guys. good vaca and good to be back. well not good to be back to work but back here anyway. Looking forward to the next gathering.

Will bring them up to Pat's for any of those headed that way.

Havnt got a good handle on what that long one is. Or the other 'rock'. If I had to guess the other 'rock is some form of hand axe. Looks worked to a edge to me
Here are a couple more pics of that 'rock:
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(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/n2everythg/artifacts021.jpg)

let me know what you think.
thanks
wade
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: jamie on July 07, 2009, 10:21:35 am
im dont study archeology like most but i do use the tools. that long one would make a perfect adze for scraping out parts of the dugouts and the larger bowls (mortar and pestle)
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: ducosniffer on July 07, 2009, 11:16:55 am
Yep, those are something to be proud of for sure.  Even though you didn't pick them up, kinda makes them neater to get from your grandparents anyway.  Congrats!
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: Hillbilly on July 07, 2009, 11:40:26 am
Never heard of a ground handaxe (or any handaxes much in North America,) but it looks like it might have possibly been worked some, hard to say. I can visualize some archaeologist several hundred years from now trying to figure out a tupperware grapefruit slicer, an egg seperator, a bull bander, or a battery post cleaning brush. :)
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: Pappy on July 07, 2009, 12:15:38 pm
Cool stuff Wade,quite a find.  :) Sounds like a great trip anyway but that stuff make it even sweeter.
   Pappy
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: venisonburger on July 07, 2009, 01:55:40 pm
Wade, where in Michigan were you?, I have a grooved axe just like that, I'll post a pic when I get home from work.
VB
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: nugget on July 07, 2009, 02:57:33 pm
Very cool Wade. That is some nice stuff to hang on to.
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Post by: Jaeger on July 07, 2009, 04:45:01 pm
I would like to try to make a grooved axe sometime ,great finds!!
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Post by: cowboy on July 07, 2009, 08:37:09 pm
Your lucky Wade! Nice artifacts..
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: DanaM on July 12, 2009, 07:16:30 pm
Cool stuff wade, you came to michigan and didn't call me :o
Shame on you eh >:( What part of Michigan eh ???
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: n2everythg on July 12, 2009, 07:54:59 pm
sorry I missed ya dana.
but I was in the civilized section of MI.... ;D
joshing ya. made it as far north as Traverse but only for a few days. floated the boardman river.
did some tourist stuff around leland and frankfurt.

spent the rest of the time down around GR.
PM me your info and next time I am up that way will look you up. prob wont be until fall tho.
later
wade
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: DanaM on July 13, 2009, 12:05:40 pm
Traverse is only about 3 hours away, they call it northern michigan :o
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: Pat B on July 13, 2009, 03:14:35 pm
Cool stuff Wade. Looking forward to seeing them in person at the camp-o-rama.    Are you and Dick riding together?
Title: Re: Artifacts - pic heavy
Post by: n2everythg on July 13, 2009, 08:26:46 pm
will do pat.
not riding up with dick tho. he is gonna come in from the south side.
C ya in a week or so.
wade