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Title: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 06, 2017, 05:25:54 pm
Been a few months since I worked on a bow, been busy making another one of these

(http://i.imgur.com/GWFdYZl.jpg)

But I got an urge to make one a couple weeks ago, I wasn't too sure what I was going to make though.  I started going through what I had in  my shop and came across a nice billet of Osage that was big enough, after sawing in half, for both limbs.  Here is what I made.

Bow is 64" overall, limbs are 1 3/8" wide with very little width taper for most of their length and have a shallow D section, backing is Sugar Maple.  It pulls about 52# @ 28".  I glued in 4 1/2" of reflex and it is maintaining over 2", so far.  It shoots really well, I am limited to shooting in my shop though.  Because it shoots so well I tried testing it for speed using a 510 grain arrow but was mostly getting errors, I did get 1 reading of 145 fps but it was on a short draw of about 26".  I had to stop because it was blowing through my stop and starting to punching holes in my back door, can't have that in the Winter.

Here are some pictures

(http://i.imgur.com/t4cIkWo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/awcT13r.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HoS963p.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fTRf8vD.jpg)
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: willie on January 06, 2017, 05:44:10 pm
Very nice, Marc.,(the harp and the bow).
I remember another Canadian from a while back, that extolled the virtues of sugar maple as a backing. Do you think that some backings contribute more to good performance, than we usually give credit for?
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: bushboy on January 06, 2017, 05:58:13 pm
Lovely!beautiful profiles !
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: bubby on January 06, 2017, 06:18:04 pm
Great bend Mark and i love maple as a backer, willie you must be thinking of adb
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 06, 2017, 06:28:00 pm
Thanks guys. 

Could be that a backing that doesn't stretch much, like Bamboo, may have an edge in performance but I can't see it being much.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Springbuck on January 06, 2017, 06:48:10 pm
Goodness, Marc.   You do work as good as, or better than, any I ever have as if you are putting on your socks in the morning.....

How much do we reckon sugar maple stretches, really?  1% ?  Maybe 2%?  I mean, she took a tiny amount of set, so the backing must be stiff ENOUGH for the belly.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Badger on January 06, 2017, 06:50:04 pm
 I like that longer straight limb design mark, it really seems to make more sense on reflexed bows. I have been leaning that way lately.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Badger on January 06, 2017, 06:52:42 pm
I like that longer straight limb design mark, it really seems to make more sense on reflexed bows. I have been leaning that way lately.

  Question on your harp, are there only two different strings used on that?
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Stick Bender on January 06, 2017, 07:01:46 pm
Beautiful Marc !
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 06, 2017, 07:21:52 pm
I like that longer straight limb design mark, it really seems to make more sense on reflexed bows. I have been leaning that way lately.

  Question on your harp, are there only two different strings used on that?

There are 5 different gauges and 3 different colours Steve.  There are 4 strings of .25 for the high notes, then 6 of .32, then 6 of .36, then another 4 of .40 and finally .50.  Then there are blue string for the F notes and reds for the C.  My wife is the musician, I just build them
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: bjrogg on January 06, 2017, 08:23:56 pm
Nice bend Marc.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 06, 2017, 08:44:21 pm
There is something so absolutely pure about your work. All the bend is in the right places. It just astounds me every time. Thanks so much for posting  :)
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: bubbles on January 07, 2017, 01:41:21 am
I thought at first we were going to see a maple and osage harp!   :)   
Awesome bow.  An R/D is on my bucket list of bows to make and yours are an inspiration. 
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Selfbowman on January 07, 2017, 03:29:13 am
I can't carry a tune in a five gallon bucket. But I don't know which I like the best the harp or the bow. Very talented man. Arvin
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 07, 2017, 08:29:49 am
Thanks guys

P.S. I made this bow left handed because I have had to switch from right to left to overcome my target panic situation, I think as was said in another thread, I've had too many bows break  :).  Shooting left makes me focus more
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 07, 2017, 08:41:48 am
Nice bow, Marc. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who ruined my shot my breaking bows. Hope shooty lefty works for you.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: osage outlaw on January 07, 2017, 08:51:29 am
Very nice looking tiller on that bow.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: bubby on January 07, 2017, 11:06:42 am
Shooting lefty never helped my shot😲
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Carson (CMB) on January 07, 2017, 11:21:14 am
That is a beautiful bow Marc. I love those profiles. I really need to try this design.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 07, 2017, 11:32:47 am
Thanks guys.

Sadly I am quite a bit more accurate when I shoot right but need to force myself to focus on the draw.  Shooting left forces me to focus on my form instead which is not instinctive, yet
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Aaron H on January 07, 2017, 11:56:30 am
Love the curves of this bow Marc.  Excellent work as usual
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Redhand on January 07, 2017, 08:34:51 pm
Beautiful bow!  Love the bend on it. Great job!
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 07, 2017, 09:40:06 pm
Thank you guys
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 08, 2017, 09:04:38 am
Beautiful bow and harp, Marc. You are a talented woodworker and bowyer. Jawge
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: BowEd on January 08, 2017, 10:11:36 am
You've got one of the best eyes for tiller and woodwork out there Marc.Taking those full draw pics does it's job.Your staying busy while it's white & cold up there too.Sweet looking brace and full draw profile.A different combo of materials for people to see.One thing I notice is your concern for balance of forces back to belly.Like the length on that bow too.
Have you seen any moose lately?I know you showed you made a good stand a while back.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 08, 2017, 10:15:23 am
Thanks guys

I saw a set of Moose tracks a couple months ago during hunting season Ed, they were about 100 yards from my house, but nothing since then.  I think they have moved to higher ground now
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: simson on January 08, 2017, 02:28:59 pm
Can't remember a wood combo like this.
The profiles look great, I like how the recurves opens up just a bit in the f/d.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: vinemaplebows on January 10, 2017, 11:18:35 pm
Very nice Marc!
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Pappy on January 11, 2017, 06:27:51 am
Beautiful bow Marc as usual. I know a lot of folks that have switched to left hand for the same reason and it has seemed to work for them. Good luck with that. Nothing worse for folks that love bows and shooting than TP. I don't even say the words anymore. ;) :) :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 11, 2017, 06:44:09 pm
Thanks guys

TP, I like that :)
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: loon on January 12, 2017, 05:06:27 am
Beautiful curves
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Parnell on January 12, 2017, 12:06:51 pm
Very nice as always, Marc.  This is my first hearing of TP.  Read a little about it...very interesting.  I'm wondering if you are right eye dominant and if this is presenting trouble.  That's a curious phenomenon.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: barebo on January 12, 2017, 07:04:57 pm
You build the bow that I aspire to create some day...........!
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 13, 2017, 06:32:44 pm
Thanks guys.

Having one eye dominant doesn't apply when shooting instinctive
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: bradsmith2010 on January 13, 2017, 07:48:43 pm
that is a beautiful bow, but it only has one string,, how do you play a chord,,???

Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: upstatenybowyer on July 06, 2017, 02:02:44 pm
Marc, this one gets my vote for backed BOM. It's one of my all-time favorites! How's it shooting?  (AT)
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: Marc St Louis on July 06, 2017, 05:39:48 pm
Besides testing the ones I recently made I haven't really shot a bow for months.  We are getting such a crazy amount of rain since Winter ended that it has set me back in all my work.
Title: Re: Maple backed Osage
Post by: ntvbowyer1969 on July 06, 2017, 11:36:56 pm
Beautiful work on that bow Marc.