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Title: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: leonwood on April 20, 2018, 01:06:07 pm
On yew sapwood, does it matter if you chased the darker coloured ring or the lighter coloured ring? The lighter always feels a bit more crumbly but I guess with yew it does not matter?
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Del the cat on April 20, 2018, 01:09:56 pm
Ah yes the crumbly chicken meat! take that off, a coarse file or rasp VERY lightly across the grain will take that off.
Have a look at this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElP8l396qxM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElP8l396qxM)
Del
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: leonwood on April 20, 2018, 01:13:47 pm
Ah thanks Del, I was hoping you would see the question! The darker ring it is!
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Bryce on April 20, 2018, 09:10:20 pm
Why would you chase a ring on yew?
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: High-Desert on April 20, 2018, 10:06:27 pm
+1 on what Bryce said. Unless you enjoy the tedious task of chasing a ring that nearly invisiable or just want to. I've grossly violated yew sapwood, and never had a break at a violation.
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Ryan Jacob on April 21, 2018, 12:33:16 am
I mean, coarse grained yew does exist ;D
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Del the cat on April 21, 2018, 01:24:01 am
Why would you chase a ring on yew?
Cosmetic mostly and because we can  ;D
(Probably a good idea too if it is very coarse ringed )
Del
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: High-Desert on April 21, 2018, 01:41:08 am
Why would you chase a ring on yew?
Cosmetic mostly and because we can  ;D
Del

Good enough of a reason. It's certainly an entertaining challenge.
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Bryce on April 21, 2018, 03:05:00 am
Why would you chase a ring on yew?
Cosmetic mostly and because we can  ;D
Del

Good enough of a reason. It's certainly an entertaining challenge.

Can you now? Heartwood-more plausible. But sapwood....idk what kinda yew y’all using but there is no way and no reason too chase.

Pfft! Eff that noise. Just make a bow;)
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: stuckinthemud on April 21, 2018, 03:40:34 am
Also, the sapwood can be too thick and need reducing - there is a post on the warbows section where the recommendation by Wills (I think it was him) was for sapwood only one or two rings thick.
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Dances with squirrels on April 21, 2018, 08:14:01 am
No way?

It can be done. I've done it on each yew bow I've made, with very few violations.

I'm working on a yew elb now. I thinned the sapwood and chased a single ring from end to end. I don't believe there's a single violation in it. It's quite thin ringed high elevation yew. I'd guess 60+ rpi. It probably took me as long to chase that ring as some folks spend on an average whole bow's construction  :o But I'm glad I did it. She's shur purdy.
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Badger on April 21, 2018, 09:44:45 am
  I like to chase the rings also. I know you don't need to but after working with so much osage it just kind of gets ingrained in you. I use a scraper and a rasp as a rule.
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Del the cat on April 21, 2018, 09:52:10 am
I think this one was easy to chase  ;D
Del
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Dances with squirrels on April 21, 2018, 10:33:48 am
Yeah, that's a little different than what I'm working on  :o
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: High-Desert on April 21, 2018, 10:40:05 am
No way?

It can be done. I've done it on each yew bow I've made, with very few violations.


Of course it can be done, and it's not hard, just time consuming, that's all. Proper lightin is the key. I've done it on most of my yew bows, but I know it's not necessary.
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Bryce on April 21, 2018, 11:47:58 am
I think this one was easy to chase  ;D
Del

Looks like garbage to me.

It’s a pointless task fellas
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: wizardgoat on April 21, 2018, 12:05:37 pm
I agree that it’s pointless, I’ve made many bows where the sapwood is violated heavily, but I’ll admit I’ve never gone over 60# on those.
To me, a violated back doesn’t look as good as a single ring, so I usually use snake skins on those bows.  To each their own
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: leonwood on April 22, 2018, 03:20:45 pm
Just got some yew with too thick sapwood so I need to take a few rings off. Somehow it feels weird to violate rings even on yew. And it looks better as well.
And unlike many others I kinda like ring chasing and taking my time with a bow. I really get to know a stave when chasing a ring. And I have another 50+ shooters on my rack so I am not in a hurry to finish a new one ;D
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Bryce on April 22, 2018, 05:32:56 pm
The sapwood is one ring;) it’s okay to make a ring thinner  ;D
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Dances with squirrels on April 22, 2018, 06:25:07 pm
It may be pointless to you, but if someone else thinks it looks better, it's not pointless to them. If they appreciate the challenge and reward in it, it's not pointless. Get the point?  ;)
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: PatM on April 22, 2018, 06:35:33 pm
Some are of the opinion that European Yew is more forgiving of ring violations. 
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Bob W. on April 22, 2018, 07:15:27 pm
Here's a yew flatbow that I peeled the sinew off because it was pulling up off in a couple spots. I sanded the back nice and smooth, the surface had been roughed prior to the sinew, and there are  plenty of violations and she pulls in 58#.(https://i.imgur.com/x0lOFiM.jpg)
Title: Re: Which yew sapwood ring to chase
Post by: Del the cat on April 23, 2018, 04:06:20 am
I think this one was easy to chase  ;D
Del

Looks like garbage to me.

It’s a pointless task fellas
Garbage? That made a 100# warbow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplODZVTwgA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplODZVTwgA)

Del