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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: vCo2v on November 11, 2008, 05:36:01 pm

Title: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: vCo2v on November 11, 2008, 05:36:01 pm
I've made a topic in "Bows" but I feel that it'd be more appropriate in here.

I wanted to purchase a traditional english bow at about 60#.

I'm kind of in a budget of around $150 That I'd be willing to spend on one.

http://www.woodbows.com/bamboohickoryelb.html would this be a good choice? I was told that it is questionable

I was told that I should just venture into making my own bow. However I have no woodworking experience and tools, and I have this mind set that the time and cost it would take to make my first bow would be more than just purchasing one.

Any additional help would be greatly appreciated since I'm absolutely in love with the English Long Bow
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: JackCrafty on November 11, 2008, 06:05:54 pm
The guys on this forum are like mechanics.  Asking us about wether to buy a bow or make one is like asking a mechanic if you should tune up your car yourself or pay someone else to do it.  Most of us would say do it yourself.

However, if you are on a budget, I would try trading for a bow on this site (in the Trading Post).  There are a lot of guys here with good quality bows that they would be willing to trade for anything of value to us (leather, feathers, flint or chert, etc.).

If you really like the bow you see on the internet site, then buy it. It has a 30 day money-back if not satisfied. ;D
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: nick1346 on November 11, 2008, 06:41:44 pm
Well $150 is about £80 which is not a lot of money to spend and you get what you pay for I suppose. I'd say increae your budget and buy a good laminate bow that will last you years without any real loss in performance. The bow you link to may be ok, I can't comment as I've no experience of there bows, so research it.
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: sailordad on November 12, 2008, 12:07:04 am
yup i agree
make your own, its old school that way

jackcrafty: i gotta disagree,most mechanics including myself would never tell ya to tune up your car yourself,not good for job security and most people
due more damage than good on modern cars. most people dont realize how complex they truly are, did you know that the modern vehicle has more on board computers than the APOLLO space capsules had,the modern vehicle has like 26 on board computers on average,thats not counting the high tech cars.


ya jsut make the bow yourself,you will be glad you did ;D ;)


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Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: adb on November 12, 2008, 12:27:02 am
Sure, everyone here is gonna tell you to make it yourself! But, I understand your point. It's a fairly big commitment... tools, time, materials, learning curve, etc.
Good advice on asking in the trading post. However, $150 is not going to get you many offers.
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: sailordad on November 12, 2008, 01:29:47 am
thats why we say make one yourself,if you got $150 to spend,thats plenty for a bow kit or stave and tools to get ya going.
plus you learn to MAKE YOUR OWN BOW,that alone is well worth 1000 times the money you put into it.
a skill that will be needed after dec 2012  >:D  lol

the choice is yours, either way is good as long as its trad or primitive.

decisions decisions          either way its all good                         peace,
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Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: vCo2v on November 12, 2008, 12:47:24 pm
what would be the best place to start for a bow kit? That way I don't have to start fresh off of something I know very little about. A few of the sites I visited sells kits for 100+

isn't that just 50 dollars under a bow I was planning on buying?
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: sailordad on November 12, 2008, 06:54:55 pm
check out RUDDERBOWS ARCHERY.COM

lots of kits on jims website,made several from him,nice stuff
very well priced also.
but it does depend on the woods you want to use also
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: vCo2v on November 13, 2008, 04:06:54 am
Thanks for the link sailordad!

Since I'm still a little unsure about gluing and shaving straight off the bat.

Would this kit be a good deal for me?

http://216.119.68.89/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_10&products_id=96&zenid=af07319b8eb60ded4ddd8a2aa6343d58

Would it be possible to do bring that kit to 60#?
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: Nick on November 13, 2008, 05:02:05 pm
What's epe isn't it ipe?
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: sailordad on November 13, 2008, 08:12:28 pm
epe ipe

tomatoe tomato

potatoe potato

 :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: Nick on November 13, 2008, 11:34:04 pm
 :D
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: Del the cat on December 01, 2008, 06:56:38 pm
I've made a topic in "Bows" but I feel that it'd be more appropriate in here.

I wanted to purchase a traditional english bow at about 60#.

I'm kind of in a budget of around $150 That I'd be willing to spend on one.

http://www.woodbows.com/bamboohickoryelb.html would this be a good choice? I was told that it is questionable

I was told that I should just venture into making my own bow. However I have no woodworking experience and tools, and I have this mind set that the time and cost it would take to make my first bow would be more than just purchasing one.

Any additional help would be greatly appreciated since I'm absolutely in love with the English Long Bow
That's a bit cheap for a bow...but buy one if you like.
Do try to make a bow, you will learn so much...you need very few tools, I do most of the work with a good axe, then a small plane and rasps.
A flat bow is much easier to make than a long bow. Just have a go, a little and often is the way to work...do it for the pleasure of doing and learning...even if it breaks or is too weak..you will learn a lot and the next one will be better. Trust me there will be a 'next one'.
Good luck
Del
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: mullet on December 01, 2008, 10:33:34 pm
 Yep, I say build your own. But you will be suprised what your budget can get you on this site. There are lots of people on here that don't mind helping someone new starting out. Heck, I've given away 3 bows this year and I know of a few others on here that have too. It would be easy to trade for a glue-up kit from quite a few people on here.
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: youngbowyer on December 02, 2008, 08:59:35 am
I think those longbows r really fake :-\ no offense!
Title: Re: Hello need help figuring out about ELB
Post by: Nick on December 02, 2008, 09:48:10 pm
They actually have a really good medium weight warbow 70-130lbs. There is a diy kit roughed out warbow kit and a finished one:

http://216.119.68.89/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_8&products_id=398&zenid=af07319b8eb60ded4ddd8a2aa6343d58

It is made of bamboo backed hickory, a combo which i don't trust all that much so i am asking them for a hickory backed ash stave.

Nick