Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Pappy on April 12, 2017, 06:27:27 am
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A good friend of mine sent me this yesterday, he killed this turkey Monday morning with what he calls a bow[NOT] 60 yards ??? :-M that is why I call them cross guns, that is farther that I can kill one with my 870. He said he can shoot a 3 inch group at 75 yards with it. :)
Pappy
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Sounds about right. I have a buddy shoots them things too. He used to shoot traditional, bought one of those and he says because of the distance he mostly shoots that thing now. Not a really a bow in my mind. I saw a commercial the other day for a new cross, guy was shooting groups with it at 100 yards. Ridiculous!
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Ya I hear ya, I got no problem with them at all except they call them a bow and they put them in our bow season, muzzle loader or rifel season I would have been fine with but not bow season. :)
Pappy
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Just another gadget for a lazy person to kill something, notice, I didn't say hunt something.
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I saw that same commercial Dave. Pappy it's funny they're really popular here now but the wheelie bow guys hate em. They say those things aren't bows and are ruining their bow season.lol. I kinda get a chuckle out of that but believe me I know what their saying. Maybe they just need to start a "true" bow season and then a anything goes season.
Bjrogg
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They should only be available during archery for people who are disabled legally, imo Pap.
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That's how it is in Kansas Steve, only the legally disabled are allowed to use them in archery season. Far from a bow if you ask me
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I would love to build one of these, but do a search on google image for "degloving" and look at the images and you'll loose interest in shooting one.
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I hav'nt read what others have said Pappy but I really really don't see the challenge in taking a turkey that a way.Your right it's NOT a bow it's a contraption.If I wanted to here I could load my muzzle loader .54 hawken and line up 10 and 12 point or more racks amoondo along the porch guard rails here.Like shooting fish in a barrel. No challenge again.
Sorry if I sound a little exemplative about that but its' just the way I feel.OH and it's fitting putting it in the campfire thread too.It's where it belongs.
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Id rather have him shooting 3" groups with that thinga-majig than to shoot what we approve of, poorly. If he is confident with it, I'm happy and so is his quarry.
I agree, its barely a bow. But that started rolling down hill years ago and wont change soon.
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congrats on the bird, we had some guys that hunted with one of those things yrs ago, they used a bolt were the fletching was the blade(not legal). they claimed to kill a deer at 200 yrds with it.
Today my dad has one because he can't pull his bow anymore. Here in WA, we can only use on of them if we have a disable permit (DR's note) from the game department and then have to get a cross gun endorsement (more red tape) from them too. that think shoots dang fast. He only likes to shoot out to about 40-50. Ed
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Dang, you'd need a bearer to tote that thing around for you. ???
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At least use one of these, sheesh
(https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5566773/il_570xN.283357375.jpg)
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Those are legal in Ohio for all seasons. I feel each persons hunting equipment is a very personal choice and as long as it is legal and gets more people involved in hunting then I am all for it. The sale of license and permits is where a large part of my states conservation funds come from. So the more sold the better off we all are. Just because I prefer to bow hunt with wooden bows and arrows I dont begrudge those that prefer all the latest technology. We all have to live within our own sense of fair chase and ethics.
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I use one to fill my freezer. I would much rather use a selfbow but I'm not skilled enough to provide meat for the year with a stick and string.
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Those are legal in Ohio for all seasons. I feel each persons hunting equipment is a very personal choice and as long as it is legal and gets more people involved in hunting then I am all for it. The sale of license and permits is where a large part of my states conservation funds come from. So the more sold the better off we all are. Just because I prefer to bow hunt with wooden bows and arrows I dont begrudge those that prefer all the latest technology. We all have to live within our own sense of fair chase and ethics.
I really agree Turtle. I wouldn't be opposed to a special true bow season it'd probably get more people trying Primitive and traditional but maybe we get a better group of people this way. We don't want to make it so nobody can hunt successfully. Not everyone is up to the same challenge. What's more important is that we have hunters who respect the rules and each other and the game they are pursuing.
Bjrogg
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In New York it's an on line questionare and you are in they should take the bow hunting course!!,,,,,,but we get more time in the woods with old timers that taught us to bow hunt,,,,,,I have one ,,,my plan is to be done hunting before gun season!! ,,,,,,but to me the most dorky thing I ever saw is some one trying to walk stealthy while carrying a cross bow!! There is just no way to look cool with one of those cumbersome contraptions lol Jeff
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I didn't post this to stir anyone up, I truly don't care what anyone hunts with as long as it is legal. I was just making the point it really ant the same as bow hunting especially with a stick. I choose a long time ago to hunt with my self bows but completely understand that's not for everyone , success is much less for me and miss the opportunity for some really nice bucks each year because of that choice but the reward is much greater when I do connect. I do manage to fill the freezer each year and that is all that really matters to me. When that stops happening then I may change my mind. ;) :) :) :)
Pappy
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That's how I understood your post Pappy
Bjrogg
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Thanks BJ, didn't mean to offend anyone that uses one or a compound/muzzy loader or rifle for that matter. :)To each there own I always say. :)
Pappy
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I didn't take any offense Pappy. When I first started hunting with a selfbow I was still using a compound to put meat in the freezer. Trying to switch back and forth between a primitive bow and modern bow really goofed me up on both. I switched to a crossbow because it its more like shooting a gun than a bow. It let me focus on only practicing with a selfbow and improved my shooting enough that I was able to kill 2 deer. As far as I'm concerned there isn't much difference between a crossbow and a compound bow. They both have similar ranges.
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Well I do apologize for the extreme reaction to that picture.I do have some disabled friends that love to hunt and the only way is with a more mechanized weapon,and everybodys situation can be different.There are able bodied people who just like to take the easy route yet though.
To me yet it's still like the difference between just killing or hunting.A person misses out on the thrill of the hunt just killing.Like said a lot more satisfying and feel lucky to be able to experience that.
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Hold on to your hats because the "airgun" has been re-introduced to the market.
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You are right Jeb. I don't see how they can call those a bow of any kind. There isn't any strings or limbs on it.
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Clint, I remember something my dad told me once about archery, "we are our own worst enemy".
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There is just no way to look cool with one of those cumbersome contraptions lol Jeff
Unless you're Daryl Dixon from The Walking Dead, lol.
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I have a friend with ALS, he has to use one if he wants to hunt. I have carried his out for him a time or two and DAMN are they heavy. Like 10-12#? I will use one when I have no options left. But no sooner.
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No offense taken here at all pappy! What I'm trying to say is,,the guys that taught me to bow hunt and build,,,are back out hunting again !! With the same fire in their eyes as 40 years ago!,,,,and that's a good thing . Jeffw
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That's how it is in Kansas Steve, only the legally disabled are allowed to use them in archery season. Far from a bow if you ask me
Nope, current regs list them as legal equipment under the "archery" category with no disabled only restrictions. Been that way for at least a couple three years now...