Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Cave Men only "Oooga Booga" => Topic started by: jamie on July 03, 2009, 10:34:56 pm
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what ive been working on lately. jeff gottlieb from long island and i have been working on this on and off for the last two weeks. mostly gathering bark and pealing saplings. we did the frame last week. when i get the pics from other people ill post the whole thing.
frame just about done with cedar saplings
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/museum/005.jpg)
lots of bark, mostly tulip, some elm. lots of work!!!!!!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/museum/006.jpg)
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oh yeah its 8 1/2' feet high by 30' long
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Damn ....and I thought that My Bark Tipi in my Brothers Back Yard back Home was big!!!!!!!
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got any pics. would love to see em
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I can already imagine the smoke pouring out the cracks as the BS flies. ;) Keep us informed.
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got any pics. would love to see em
Sure do....hope You like em.........
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Man, that is a lot of bark, is that all poplar? Looking good.
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Cool longhouse jamie :)
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Thats got to be just about the coolest thing I've seen in a long time. It would make one hell of a hunting camp.
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thats an excellent camp el'D
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Very, very big project! Good luck Jamie...and I'll be looking forward to watching this thread. That is awesome! :)
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Sweet, Wish I could help!
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i'll definetly post more pics as i get em
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wow that is amazing jamie. really cool. looks like lots of work though.
in the foreground on that last pic. is that a hollowed out log for a trough?
nice job.
wade
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dugout/ canoe
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Very cool Jamie. Woodland Roamer(Alan) built one, a bit smaller but same construction methods a few years ago.
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we'll be working on it all weekend . i spent yesterday pealing bark again. this weekend we'll button up that frame and start putting panels on.
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Can't wait to see the finished product. :)
Pappy
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inner frame finished and first row done.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/museum/010.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/museum/012.jpg)
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this rules! man, i wanna help!
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where ya from?
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where ya from?
He be frum Canada....eh
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long drive eh
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Wholly-Whah..........Fer Sher........eh!
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yeah, long drive...and i'd be on a bus! (with a stave of yew)
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Hey Jamie, just found this. Great work man!! I know how much work it is, I built one last year, much smaller. I can't imagine getting the bark for one the size of yours! Great job and can't wait to see more. Here is a pic of mine.
Alan
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/AlanShook/100_2038.jpg)
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i was looking for this pic before. i remember when you posted this. how are the sheets staying on with out the outer poles. hopefully we have enough bark to finish. i think we are ok. i pealed one more last thursday but the bark is just starting to stick and i got some cracks in them.
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Jamie, I drilled small holes in the bark and tied it to the frame with strips of inner bark from willow trees kind of like these guys do on this site: http://pathwayscrg.org/Project_Portfolio/Project_Portfolio.html
They also put the poles around the outside. I tried the poles around the outside like you're doing but I couldn't get the bark to lay flat without the ends curling up pretty bad. But I see you have your bark layed out flat to cure some first. I think that is where I went wrong, I was putting most of the bark on fresh off the tree and I just couldnt get the outer pole method like you're using to work well. If I did it again I would collect all the bark first and lay it out like you have to cure some then build the frame. Even with it tied down I still had some ends curl over the winter as the bark dried out more when the humidity was down and it opened up some gaps between some of the panels that I didnt overlap enough. So this summer I had to get a few more panels to fill in gaps here and there.
Alan
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holy cow!
man that has got to be one of the coolest things i ever saw.
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Very Impressive Jamie. Can't wait to see the finished project.
El Destructo, that is a great setup you have there. Nice established camp. ehh
Alan, that is a sweet little hut. That picture is incredible. Have you spent much time in it with bad weather? Show us the knappin pit
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Thanks Johnathan. I didn't get to spend as much time as I wanted last winter but I'm planning to camp there as much as possible this fall/winter. Here is the only pic I have at the moment with the knapping area, it only shows a small part of it there on the left. I'll have to take some more, the knapping pit has grown since this pic which was taken in June 08.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/AlanShook/100_2026.jpg)
Alan
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Alan, I remember when you made this, also. How is it holding up? Like, is the bark starting to show a lot of deteriation? I'm just curious how long one would last.
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ed a bark house will last for a long time depending on its usage. the most important factor is fire or even more so , smoke. the heat helps keep it dry and the formaldahyde in the smoke will help preserve it and keep out the bugs. the poles will also last much longer if the ends are fire hardened before going in the ground. most of the digs that archeologists do they find the charcoal remnants of the burned poles and that is how they determine how big the structures were. so if they are finding charcoal from the poles 200 yrs later, the fire hardening obviously helps to preserve the things.
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Yep what Jamie said, I try to go at least once a week and start a fire inside as the smoke really helps preserve everything. Mine is still in great shape, the bark is still as good as new really. I peeled the bark from the frame poles and charred the bottoms in the fire like Jamie did his. Back then when they were living in them full time I would guess one would last for years.
Alan
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wow yall are backwoods country hillbillies, cool . that is the neatest thing i seen since, weel i cant say. keep the pics and motivation flying.
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Around here in the last few years poplar bark has been used as sidind of some of the high dollar homes. Years ago it was chestnut bark.
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just about done. ill have the roof on next weekend and hopefully not run out of bark.
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Sounds good Jamie, looking foward to seeing the finished pics.
Alan
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finished except the benches inside and the smoke hole cover
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/museum/013-1.jpg)
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Thats cool jamie 8) I need one of them for when the in-laws visit ;D
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Very cool Jamie. Expecting visitors? ;D
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Wow now that's a home away from home
Thanks Leroy
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Looks like a hunting camp for sure brother.. great job... OOOOga Boooga ..Hawk
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WOW!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SMOKES!!!!!!!! That thing is BIG! Fantastic job on that one jamie.....it looks great!
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thanks guys. im glad its done. i put the benches in yesterday and finished the smoke hole cover. only thing left is some added support under the benches for when 40 screaming kids are jumping on them.. this shot gives you an idea how big it really is.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/museum/006-1.jpg)
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Very impressive, that is a mansion of a bark house, Nice work Jamie.
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that is rediculously awsome man. great work. i dont have the time to do the bark deal, but i got lotsa palmettos. ;D
im getting ideas here.
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RS, when I was a kid in Savannah we would make forts with chicken wire and palmetto fronds woven into it. You can make them almost water proof by starting at the bottom and working up to the top like roof shingles. Would make a great blind in a palmetto thicket.
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finished the bencher up . Rock solid so visiting children wont destroy em. Now ontm the next project. Full length dugout and a phragmites wigwam. Next year rebuild the bark wigwam. Thanks again for the good mojo everybody. Rick come up this fall and we'll campout . I have a decent hunting property not far from the museum. Peace
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finished the bencher up . Rock solid so visiting children wont destroy em. Now ontm the next project. Full length dugout and a phragmites wigwam. Next year rebuild the bark wigwam. Thanks again for the good mojo everybody. Rick come up this fall and we'll campout . I have a decent hunting property not far from the museum. Peace
I am there!!! Let's figure out a good weekend for me to not shoot any deer. ;D Camping out in the house would make the hunt, even if I didn't see a single deer.
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i have made the palmeto blinds, and they work great till it gets all dryed out, then every little breeze rattles the snot out of it. :-\
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Great job Jamie, I know how much work you put in this. I thought I would never finish mine and yours is probably three times bigger. I can't imagine building one that size! It looks really great man!
Alan
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thanks alan. id say all in all it took 2 guys about 2 weeks to harvest and build. we had a lot of volunteers a couple days and then none on other days. what most of the onlookers forget is the harvesting work. building it is mentally challenging but pulling 100 lb bark slabs out of the woods for days on end is exhausting.
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how much you get on rent, thats nicer than most houses here in oklahoma.
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Good lord! Looks good! :) -josh
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Yeah you're right on Jamie, building one from all the materials laying there in a pile is easy compared to the work it takes to get that pile of materials harvested. Fighting the summer heat and bugs to get all that bark is physically and mentally exhausting. I bet I sweated off ten pounds getting the bark for mine.
Alan
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Very cool jamie,Lots of work but looks like you handled it great. :)
Pappy
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still looking to rent that condo. all bs aside that is really cool i bet it will last along time. or it better after all the work you put in it.
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Very good job. Lots of hard work, thanks for sharing....Brokenhand....Aho.
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Wow!! That is an excellent long house.Did you build it where you hunt? God Bless
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thank you we put a lot of labor into it. This was built on museum grounds as an exhibit. There are two more wigwams that are degrading fast that i have to rebuild in the spring also. Should be a much easier project than this behemoth!
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you guys did a wonderful job...i think it would be a lovely photo with snow on it...great work. john
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thank you. may end up rebuilding one of the wigwams this winter if the ground doesnt freeze up to soon. so i should get some winter pics.
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Nice stuff jamie. Some guys built a long house in Harrisburg PA about 8 years ago as part of PA archaeology month. used locust bark slabs for the outer structure. they also built a keyhole structure.
Dave
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Thanks dave, I'm interested to see that done with locust.