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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on April 22, 2016, 12:49:50 am

Title: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: simson on April 22, 2016, 12:49:50 am

This Black Locust has a nice even crown and a dead flat belly. The tips are flipped with steam and are tapering from the flat belly into a triangular cross section. The outers are stiff. On the back is rawhide, stained with 3 different colors and fading out towards the tips. The rawhide strips are cut not at the edge, but about ⅛” away from. This makes a nice side effect. The overlays are made from plum heartwood.

The almost finished bow with rawhide and overlays on was in the fuming pipe for five days. The final tillering on the belly brought out the fading effect.

I found a matching burgundy leather for the grip and made her a matching string.
A simple, proven design but a pleasure to shoot.

Specs:

64” ntn
54#/ 28”
1⅝” max width
500 gram mass


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Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: wizardgoat on April 22, 2016, 01:58:38 am

great looking bow!  Wow I really need to try out fuming

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Stick Bender on April 22, 2016, 04:17:36 am

Thats absolutly beautiful bow !

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: loon on April 22, 2016, 05:45:36 am

Mouth-watering  :P

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Aaron H on April 22, 2016, 06:10:27 am

Great colors on a beautiful bow Simon

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 22, 2016, 06:14:49 am

Very nice, Simon. I bet that bow hammers an arrow into the target.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Pappy on April 22, 2016, 06:17:36 am

That's another beauty simon. Very nice work in all aspects. :)
 Pappy

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: missilemaster on April 22, 2016, 08:24:35 am

Yea, I guess ;) its just alright!

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Emmet on April 22, 2016, 08:51:40 am

Nice!

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on April 22, 2016, 11:35:18 am

Wow, just wow!

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Redhand on April 22, 2016, 11:55:36 am

Gorgeous bow, outstanding work, very nice.  Congrats on a job well done.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: DC on April 22, 2016, 12:22:28 pm

Beautiful work simon :D :D

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Parnell on April 22, 2016, 12:41:45 pm

Rich like chocolate cherry cheesecake.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: bradsmith2010 on April 22, 2016, 01:18:53 pm

very nice, I love the gradual fades,, and rawhide back looks great, this one is my favorite  :)

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on April 22, 2016, 02:02:12 pm

Nice everything. Great job once again.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Pat B on April 22, 2016, 02:23:14 pm

Excellent bow Simon. Very nice!   8)

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: GB on April 22, 2016, 03:17:23 pm

Love the dye work on that beauty.  That's a stunning bow.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Hans H on April 22, 2016, 03:20:46 pm

outstanding bow, sir. like all around
Hans

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: bubby on April 22, 2016, 03:44:11 pm

That looks like it would hammer an arrow

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: ajooter on April 22, 2016, 04:53:01 pm

Gorgeous per the usual.  Never get tired of seeing your work sor!

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: simson on April 23, 2016, 03:03:10 am

Thank you all!

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Steve Milbocker on April 23, 2016, 08:19:39 am

Wowed again! Beautiful bow Simon

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: BowEd on April 23, 2016, 08:33:10 am

That'll work simson.Beautiful bow there.Like your need for something different each time.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: dragonman on April 23, 2016, 02:06:12 pm

very good!! a well made bow..nicely done.

you need a few more pictures tho.. ;D

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Stixnstones on April 23, 2016, 02:45:14 pm

just beautiful! gotta try fuming.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: H Rhodes on April 23, 2016, 06:43:53 pm

Awesome.  Finishing work is amazing and the tiller looks perfect.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: sapling bowyer on April 24, 2016, 03:27:21 am

Beautiful bow! Love it

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: sieddy on April 24, 2016, 01:47:18 pm

Man alive that is a truly stunning bow. Exceptional work Simon!  :)

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: mullet on April 24, 2016, 09:46:10 pm

Beautiful bow, Simon. I love how narrow it is in the grip, then widens and goes back to such thin tips. Have you tried fuming with white woods?

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: dantolin on April 25, 2016, 04:30:09 am

Ole! :)

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Springbuck on April 25, 2016, 11:45:53 am

 oh, hey, I like that A LOT.  Great tiller, but the front profile is gorgeous.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: simson on April 25, 2016, 12:10:53 pm

Quote from: dragonman on April 23, 2016, 02:06:12 pm

very good!! a well made bow..nicely done.

you need a few more pictures tho.. ;D

Sorry, battery is empty ...  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Quote from: mullet on April 24, 2016, 09:46:10 pm

Beautiful bow, Simon. I love how narrow it is in the grip, then widens and goes back to such thin tips. Have you tried fuming with white woods?

Yes Eddy, works good with ash, elm and some others.
Ash: http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,48632.0.html
Elm: http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=52982.0
effect is more when higher concentration, higher temp, longer time ...

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: mullet on April 25, 2016, 03:38:44 pm

Thanks, Simon, I don't know how I missed those.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Springbuck on April 25, 2016, 04:10:17 pm

Simson, do you know if this works with conifer-woods as well?

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: simson on April 26, 2016, 02:39:35 pm

Quote from: Springbuck on April 25, 2016, 04:10:17 pm

Simson, do you know if this works with conifer-woods as well?

I assume you're thinking on yew and juniper, sorry to say i have tried none of them. Just do a experimental slat in a little box with ammonia and you will know.
The ammonia reacts with the tanin acids in the wood, the more acids are in the deeper the color you get. Here is a trick you can try: I have solved scrapes and file powder while working on osage. Mixed with water and cooked for some time til you get a nice brown colored osage soup. This soup contains all the acids from the osage and you can apply it on every wood you like. You will get a good reaction with the ammonia.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: DC on April 26, 2016, 04:19:21 pm

I tried a test piece of yew. The sapwood didn't seem to do much and the heartwood turned green grey. Kind of like that green pressure treated wood. Not a real attractive colour. Would be good camo. I couldn't decide whether I liked it or not. I posted it here somewhere back when Simon first tried it.

I found it   http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,52210.msg737635.html#msg737635

It actually looks a little greener

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Josh B on April 27, 2016, 09:50:55 am

Simon you have an artist's mind for details and aesthetics.  Lovely piece of work Sir!  Josh

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Carson (CMB) on May 08, 2016, 12:15:30 pm

Wow! the finish work on this bow really sets it off. I love the front profile you do on this design.

Title: Re: Black locust fumed flattie (No. 77)
Post by: Ghost308 on May 08, 2016, 03:08:58 pm

Wow ! That sure is a pretty bow, you did a great job on her she is totally Top Notch !!  Bravo !!!
If you ever need a home for her mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm grins  ;)