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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on February 19, 2013, 03:16:36 pm

Title: elm longbows, part 3/3, 120/28 (No. 20)
Post by: simson on February 19, 2013, 03:16:36 pm: The third bow is really heavily heat treated, it has nearly the same dimensions as bow No. 2 - but came out with such a heavy drawweight I didn't expect. See my stuggle and my grimace in the fd pic, this is somehow in the 90#.

The bow is the bare stick, only tip overlays (horn) and arrowpass/mark (horn-bone-horn) added. The bow had about 90# before heating - I estimate about 120# after. I'm shure it will loose some weight in fine tillering and shooting in, but I cannot do this. My shoulder and my tillertree setup produces crack noises, so I wonder how to get on: leave it or bring down to at least 90.

74 ntn
bendy handle

can do measurements if you are intereated ...
hope you like that monster, enjoy ...

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Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 19, 2013, 03:46:18 pm: I would bring the weight down Simon. If you cant shoot it you wont shoot it. What good is a bow you cant shoot? Still a nice piece of elm and a great looking profile unbraced.
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: k-hat on February 19, 2013, 04:16:45 pm: Better yet, just ship that lovely beast to me;) I can't pull'r yet, but i bet i can get there! >:D

Seriously, i love what you've done with all these, a real testament to the power of elm, and your skills as a bowyer.
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: Zion on February 19, 2013, 10:09:11 pm: Wicked bow man, just work out for like 3 weeks and you'll be able to pull it easy >:D
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: Badly Bent on February 19, 2013, 11:36:49 pm: Another very nice elm bow by you Simon! I like everything about that bow but the 120 # draw, OUCH. To be honest even at 90# I
would feel the pain lol.

Greg
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: soy on February 19, 2013, 11:47:29 pm: That is awesome!!! you should ship it to fish finder401 that's light weight for that stud puppy >:D ;)
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: BowEd on February 20, 2013, 09:36:21 am: Yeehaaa simson.Fine work there.Quite a jump in draw weight after heat treating huh.Like the arrow pass there.I would'nt want to shot that one more than a dozen times in a stretch.....LOL.What kind of elm do you have growing by you there?I've tried red or slippery elm here a few times and hav'nt been impressed.
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: Pappy on February 20, 2013, 10:41:01 am: Beautiful wood and very nice work on the bow,I would do like pearl said or have to give it to somebody that could shoot it. That thing is over double what I can draw and shoot. Nice work. :)
Pappy
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: }|{opukc on February 20, 2013, 02:00:57 pm: Just beautiful elm!
Simson, you can try one technique - first pulling the bow close to the jaw, then just push forward. That's how I pulled one of my old 110 #. It serves as a warm up even greater weight.
George
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiG2hP5y0SQ&list=UUzNjsGSk-vFoeGA1eYL_AMA&index=1
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: coaster500 on February 20, 2013, 02:33:30 pm: Quote from: }|{opukc on February 20, 2013, 02:00:57 pm
Just beautiful elm!
Simon, you can try one technique - first pulling the bow close to the jaw, then just push forward. That's how I pulled one of my old 110 #. It serves as a warm up even greater weight.
George
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiG2hP5y0SQ&list=UUzNjsGSk-vFoeGA1eYL_AMA&index=1

Ouch!!!!
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: Buffalogobbler on March 15, 2013, 06:18:00 pm: Another cool bow, I'll bet it really flings an arrow!(If you have the muscles to pull it back) ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: occupant on March 16, 2013, 12:50:48 pm: I ran across a short video on drawing a heavy bow. I dont remember the site but could find it if youre interested. It doesnt make a huge difference in drawing, but it does make it a little easier.
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 16, 2013, 01:01:44 pm: Very nice bow. I guess that elm likes a little toasting ;)
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: simson on March 16, 2013, 05:13:03 pm: Quote from: occupant on March 16, 2013, 12:50:48 pm
I ran across a short video on drawing a heavy bow. I dont remember the site but could find it if youre interested. It doesnt make a huge difference in drawing, but it does make it a little easier.

yeah I'm interested. I have it a little lighter ( still over 100), but no way for me to get it drawn clean ...
so if it is no great effort for you - it would be nice, thank you
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: simson on March 16, 2013, 05:17:19 pm: Quote from: Carson (CMB) on March 16, 2013, 01:01:44 pm
Very nice bow. I guess that elm likes a little toasting ;)

yes this one is heavily toasted - the smell filled the whole garage and came into the house. My wife came out and I got problems ;)
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: occupant on March 17, 2013, 08:45:53 pm: I haven't found it yet. I have found quite a lot of different ones, but not the one I was looking for. Still looking though.
Title: Re: elm longbows, part 3/3
Post by: Sidewinder on March 17, 2013, 11:48:17 pm: Wow is all I can say. Hurts just thinking about it but it looks like you got those heavies bending nice. Could probaley launch a fence post at that weight. Nice bow. Danny