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Title: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on September 27, 2009, 02:40:11 pm
Who are we?  Who are you?  Any ladies on this forum?  Are we mostly older; younger; somewhere in the middle?  Have you been knapping for a month; a year; 10 years or more?  Where are we from?  When I was talking to Craig Ratzat (Keokuk quarry) he told me he thought that eastern knappers out numbered western knappers by 100 to 1.  I think he was narrowly defining "western" as the Pacific Northwest and California, but even so, that seems like a huge difference.  He ascribed this to the ready availability of old points in the East, Midwest, South, and Southwest making for increased interest in those regions.  Not only have I never found a point here in western Washington, it's illegal to remove one if I should find it, so maybe he's right.  What do you think?  This is who I am:  Male; retired (64 in a couple weeks); exposed to knapping for several years but only really worked on it since May of this year (had laser surgery in one eye last week so don't know when I'll start knapping again because I wear glasses for close up and now the corrected eye will be different and the glasses will be wrong; last point before surgery, below.)  My goal is to attain journeyman competence as a knapper.  The points you guys (are there any gals?) are posting are inspiring and I regret that I'm this old already before I've begun my journey.

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: PeteDavis on September 27, 2009, 04:24:31 pm
Reckon I'm one of the 100. Builder, 50, Virginia, new knapper (18 months). Never too late to try a new thing. Collected all my life and watched the knappers for four years before I began the hemmorhagic process.


Happy bustin'-PD

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Jaeger on September 27, 2009, 04:31:13 pm
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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: sailordad on September 27, 2009, 06:29:05 pm
i am a 43 year old ,ford master tech.i live in ctrl. minnesota.been knapping for about 8 months and am self taught(and you tube).
i try to make a point a day,the key there is try.i do decent considering the time and being self taught and all.
never found a point in my life,but may have found a hand scaper.someday i'll post a pic.
i started knapping only cause i wanted to learn to make primitive style arrows to go with my self bows.
now spend more time knaping than working on bows.
but love doing all that is related to this site,still gotta do the fire thing yet.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Outbackbob48 on September 27, 2009, 08:16:33 pm
I am 61 yrs. young an also one of the100, live in Nw Penna. found lots of heads over the yrs. in head waters of  an valleys of large rivers system, the ancients highway system. I,ve been knapping about 3 1/2 yrs. Bob

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: FlintWalker on September 27, 2009, 09:25:45 pm
Hi my name is Shannon...and I'm a knappaholic ;D
 Male, 34 if I live till Oct 11.  I'm the head saw filer for a large hardwood lumber mill.
 I live in south central Kentucky and have been flintknapping 5 months.  I pressure flaked a few points from glass prior to that. But no flint and no percussion before May.
 I'm mostly self taught except for YouTube and a few much appreciated pointers from the guys on here.

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Timo on September 27, 2009, 10:22:22 pm
Tim Ott,from south central Mo. Burlinton everywhere! ;D   Self employed,Closing in on a half century of years,been beatin rocks for about 7 of those.
Here's a lil somethin I knocked out yesterday.




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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Hardawaypoints on September 27, 2009, 10:23:41 pm
 Man, Shannon, just 5 months... (seriously?) that is some awesome work.

I'm a little embarrassed to post how long I've been chipping rock following that. Name's Jim, 48, from central North Carolina. I own a company that does well inspections, water testing, & septic system inspections.  Been knapping off & on since '88 or so. I mostly tried (very unsuccessfully) to re-work ancient chips and flakes that I found while arrowhead hunting. A few points were even good enough to fool some of my arrowhead hunting buddies. I got some obsidian on a trip to Arizona and made some points that were the right shape, but the wrong thickness & material.  A friend gave me D.C. Waldorf's "Art of Flintknapping" (3rd edition) and I learned a little more, but didn't really improve until I watched somebody else knap.  The internet has helped me improve along with some fine people I've met along the way (especially John Crawford & Roger Warmuskerken). I have had several (unwanted) breaks in my knapping lately because of being T-boned by a drunk driver and having to recover from from two shoulder surgeries.  It took too long to regain strength to be able to knap again.  I try to help others shorten their learning curve when I can.

Jim
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 27, 2009, 11:27:10 pm
I'm 41, live in western NC, do horticulture and GIS mapping for a local university. Been knapping for a few years, don't really remember the exact number, but long enough that I should be a lot better than I am by now. :)
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: DanaM on September 28, 2009, 07:11:03 am
Upper Peninsula of Michigan, otherwise known as a Yooper :) 49 years old been knapping about a year now, head operator in a sewage plant,
never found a point before and most likely never will up here >:( Only knap in the summer as its too damn cold to klnap outside in the winter here,
which lasts about 6 months, its hunting season now so no time for knapping now either, so I guess I knap only about 4 months out of the year.
Sorry no pics but I'm not real good, although I get a nice one every now and then :)
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Bone pile on September 28, 2009, 08:23:59 am
live on the central west coast of Fla,56 yrs old as of yesterday,Work in the Utilities section of the local county.been knapping close to 3 yrs.I just returned from a vacation and will get to breaking rock as soon as I can get everything unpacked.
Bone pile
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: bryan irwin on September 28, 2009, 01:52:25 pm
hi there i,m 43 been nappen 5 months i live in mooresville north carolina work in plastic recylin hooked on nappen and bow building.

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: ricktrojanowski on September 28, 2009, 09:17:09 pm
Eastern LI NY, just started knapping  about 8 months ago.  So I don't know if I qualify as a knapper yet. ;D.  But I keep trying.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: warhawk on September 28, 2009, 09:29:21 pm
I'm warhawk, born in Puerto Rico, raised in Chicago Ill, OK i hear all the comments. Retired US Paratrooper, live in the Sandhills of NC .I collect paleo Indian artifacts, a guy in central Texas taught me how to find them. I have about 300-400 items. My Lovely Wife found a Website call http://www.flintknappingtools.com/ and i have been knapping for about 2 years. I love knapping arrowheads and wish The tarheels could begin a local group to combine lessons learned and teach each other things.( just a wish)
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: mullet on September 28, 2009, 10:19:00 pm
 A Central Fl. Cracker. Yep, real born and raised Floridian. Started knapping after making my first bow. I wanted to learn to make all the real stuff. Then I was fortunate to meet Claude Van Order and be able to hang out with him.
  I've mostly made points to hunt with, slabbing and FOGíng to get consistant size hunting points. Then Shannon came down and I was embarrassed. So I went back to smashing rock and destroying my stash. But I have a lot of preforms made up.
  Oh yea, I'm old 56, but not as old as Pat. ;D
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: smokeu on September 29, 2009, 12:07:38 am
Michael Loe 29yrs Oilfiield. Ive been trying to knap forthe last 2 and a half yrs. Which was about the time i found my first point made of petrified wood.  I had always been intrested in the ways of the ancients, and when i found that first one I was bitten hard. I have become a student of the primitive arts and amature researcher of a people who lived before us. Particularly the Caddo who lived plentifully here in East Texas a thousand years ago. I have a small collecton of misc artifacts and points that seems to grow on its own now. I am looking forward to my first bow hunt EVER with all homemade equipment this weekend a cullmination of the last 2 or more years. I had never shot a bow till i made one. And when i can make huntable ponts I hope to use those too. I am very grateful for this site and the support and encouragement I have found here. Couldnt have done it without you all. Thank you.

Respectfully

Michael Loe
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on September 29, 2009, 03:42:32 am
Shannon; We share something besides knapping.  I was born on 11 Oct just 30 years before you were.  And, while on the subject, Happy Birthday Bone Pile!

Sawfiler; It just so happens I teach fire by friction.  You can't be much more than 1800 miles from here, so drop by when you have a minute - no charge.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: FlintWalker on September 29, 2009, 09:30:21 am
Will do Buddy ;) ;D
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: billy on September 29, 2009, 11:27:10 am
I'm a 35 year-old white boy honkey cracker, been knapping about 17 years.  Lived in GA most of my life, though I spent 3 of those years in Oregon. 

As a knapper I've kinda regressed a little in my knapping skill by choice.  I can make pretty, symmetrical points, but I've been making more utilitarian points.  I can make them really thin if I Want to, but I've kinda taken on the "been there, done that" approach.  Now my goal is to start knocking off critters with my points, and shooting them at any animal that will sit still long enough for a shot.  Making bows and arrows and arrowheads is easy compared to hunting with them....so that is my goal now.  And because my points will be used, I tend to not spend as much time when making them.  I'll just crunch them out, make sure the edges are sharp, and then haft them on an arrow and shoot them.  Notice I didn't say "make them pretty".  My points are intended for use, and spending additional time to make them "pretty" is just a waste of time.  So if they are sharp, I call them finished. 
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on September 29, 2009, 04:52:56 pm

     I'm another central Florida Cracker, just east of Eddie (Mullet).  No where near as good as he is, or any of the others.  Shannon has only been knapping for a little while, and I wouldn't even begin to show him any of my knappings.  I have made a few keepers, but have a large gravel pile also.  Eddie has been gracious enough to give me a nice supply of rock.  But I haven't been knapping lately.  Still have my tools in the truck.  Took them with me to Montana, to try to knap some agate, and never found anything.  Same for the Flint river in Ga.  Anyway, I am 61, and started knapping about a little over a year ago.  Uh, let me rephrase that.  I started trying to knap, about a little over a year ago.  I would love to spend a day with Claude, just a one on one lesson day.  I would love to learn what I am doing wrong, and what I am doing right, and how get the points thinner, and how to percussion flake also.  In other words, I guess I would love to learn to knap. ;D  Found an arrow head on my uncle's dairy farm in Wisconsin, when I was about twelve or so.  Got hooked.  Would love to go to Texas sometime, and find someplace to load up on Texas chert, without getting shot at or put in jail. :o

                                                                          Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Stoker on September 29, 2009, 06:12:03 pm
Leroy,46,  Bin drywalling for28yrs newbie at trying to knapp come from southern alberta.
Having a blast breaking glass looking for some good rock in this area.Mostly granite and quartzite.
It's a great site watching the points and blades come across it, learning something everyday. ;D
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: madcrow on September 29, 2009, 08:55:44 pm
Eddie, Boonville, NC.  39 and still kicking.  Been knapping for one year and finally figured out which end of the Ishi stick to use to beat myself over the head.  I work for the #1 home improvement retailer mostly loading trucks.  I have also been known to make a few bows, knives, arrows and just about anything paleo.



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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: DustinDees on September 30, 2009, 02:34:24 am
im one of the few in the pacific NW, been knapping for 5 months and bow building for 1.5 years now. most of the points i have made in the last 2 months i have made and sold at work, so i dont have any recent pics. this is not a good example of my normal work, i got lucky making this one.

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Dustin D
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: recurve shooter on October 02, 2009, 09:59:12 am
wow. looks like im the baby here. im 16, live in french settlement, louisiana. knap glass cus i dont think there are actually rocks down here....jist mud. REALLY new knapper, 6 months or so.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: leapingbare on October 02, 2009, 12:20:17 pm
 Jesse, Wright, Male 26 this month. Started knapping when i was 16 So about 10 years.
I live in Clarksville T.N and i am a SGT in the U.S Army.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Lobo69ss on October 03, 2009, 02:47:07 am
   Greetings all... I`m Tim from northern IN., 51 years young & have been knapping for about 6 months. I`m a home
remodeling contractor, sometimes mechanic, & living history re-enacting entheusiast portraying a "white Injun" aka
Mountain man gone 'native".  The wife & I spend quite a few long weekends living in an "old" wall tent with friends &
aquaintances demonstrating homespun crafts & getting to know some of our flatlander visitors. 
  I am mostly self taught with a lot of time spent in front of the computer watching youtube videos & reading here &
on a couple other forums (Paleoplanet.com & Arrowheadology.com mainly) to learn the basics, then trying to find some
local stone to work with, in the meantime I`m getting pretty good at making (generally)recognizable points & blades out
of glass & Johnstone.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Wataugan on October 05, 2009, 06:41:55 pm
Hello, Bob Holder from Boone, NC and 59 years old.  This is my first post on PA.  Have been flint knapping for about 18 months now.  Like a lot of others, I was an artifact collector first and flint knapper second.  I always wanted to know how the old guys made the points I was finding.  YouTube and forums like PaleoPlanet and PA are a real help new knapper looking for some instruction.  Professionally I help nonprofit organizations with fundraising.  Looking forward to making new friends on PA.  Bob
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: arappaho on October 05, 2009, 08:33:16 pm
Hey Folks,  Joe from Wake Forest, NC. 52 as of Oct.2. Being a window cleaner for over 30 years,
I try to promote clarity. :D Been collecting artifacts for over 30 years, but when they started
to get hard to find I decided to start hunting rocks in general as well. Not much of a hunter,
just a rockhound. Trying to get good enough at knapping to post a pic. Allthough, I must admit,
looking at what Shannon has done in half a year was enough to make me quit. ;) ;D
Joe
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on October 07, 2009, 06:39:26 pm
Thanks for all the input, fellas.  Looks like we far westerners are only outnumbered about 10 to 1.  I'm really envious of all of you younger than I am; especially Recurve Shooter.  What I'd give to start over as a teenager!  But, late is better than never, and I'll do my best to make good use of the next (I hope) 25 or 30 years.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: ken75 on October 08, 2009, 01:13:26 pm
ken from southwest GA , been knappin bout five months , work in a GP papermill , former marine , 34 yrs , here's some pics so far

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: ken75 on October 08, 2009, 01:15:00 pm
one more

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: ken75 on October 08, 2009, 01:17:43 pm
dang my clicker stuck sorry posted some twice

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: flecha on October 08, 2009, 04:28:20 pm
Flecha: 32 years old, 27 years experience.  Currently in Utah, from SouthWest Oregon.  Specialize in Obsidian as material of choice.

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: mullet on October 08, 2009, 10:22:04 pm
  Sweet!, Where have you been?
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: recurve shooter on October 08, 2009, 11:27:01 pm
whatever that red/black splotched stuff yall are knapping is.....I WANT SOME! gorgeous stuff. nice work guys.  ;D
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: D. Tiller on October 09, 2009, 12:54:21 am
David Tiller, 38 years old (feel older!) been knaping since I could bang rocks together. Learned from lots of people all wonderful good folks. Choice of materials...obsidian...obsidian and obsidian.  ;D
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on October 09, 2009, 03:52:34 am
Recurve:  The "red/black splotched stuff " is called mahogany obsidian.

Dave:  Looks like there are at least three of us from Washington on this board.  We'll all have to get together some day.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: recurve shooter on October 09, 2009, 03:39:27 pm
Recurve:  The "red/black splotched stuff " is called mahogany obsidian.

Dave:  Looks like there are at least three of us from Washington on this board.  We'll all have to get together some day.

yup. yall get togeather and go look for some of that mahogany obsidian for the rock deprived southerner.  ;D

i gotta find some fellow rock beaters down here.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on October 09, 2009, 05:08:12 pm

     Recurve Shooter, take a road trip, some weekend to Alabama, and get some coastal plains chert. ;)


                                                                     Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: HoBow on October 09, 2009, 06:05:17 pm
Where at in Alabama?  I've heard there's some up in Washington county- is that correct?
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on October 09, 2009, 06:49:43 pm

     Jeffutley57, beats my two aces.  I haven't a clue, but I do remember there being a post on here, of someone, who had a nice batch of it, from somewhere in Alabama, but I don't remember where.  Hopefully, someone on here will jump on this, and point you in the right direction.  I believe there were a couple of places to get it.  Mullet, or Bone Pile, might know where to go.  I would like to know also. ;)
                                                                                    Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: recurve shooter on October 09, 2009, 07:00:50 pm
might have to do that.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: ken75 on October 09, 2009, 09:02:27 pm
someone on here said the landfill at dothan ala has some im about 30 miles from there ill call monday and see
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on October 09, 2009, 10:33:58 pm

     Ken75, I think it was Eddie (mullet), that said that.

                                 Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: mullet on October 09, 2009, 10:45:32 pm
 Yep, it was me. But somebody else said they will not let you dig it anymore. But there has to be more close by.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: ken75 on October 10, 2009, 06:58:41 pm
im going monday to where they just built a college supposed to be rock pile half size of a house there , local guy said there was coastal there .. not sure but i know when they built the bypass that goes through there they unearthed lots of artifacts .. state came in and removed everything . so there has to be useable rock close
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: nugget on October 10, 2009, 07:26:41 pm
TJ Miley been knapping for about a year. I like to knap whatever I can get my hands on. Been beating on some obsidian, dacite and chert lately. Will post pics as soon as I get the camera going.
North Wilkesboro, NC

OK I got the pics ready. These are most of what I have left after breakage and giving them away.

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: nugget on October 10, 2009, 07:45:43 pm
Most of them still need work. The first pic is of works in progress. the rest are various points.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: madcrow on October 10, 2009, 09:37:46 pm
I recognize some of that, especially the tortilla.  The more I hit it, the more I liked it.  Nice points.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: nugget on October 10, 2009, 10:57:26 pm
The tortilla is some nice stuff. I am with you the more I whack it the better it gets  ;D. I am also liking the dacite alot.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: D. Tiller on October 11, 2009, 12:50:17 pm
Recurve:  The "red/black splotched stuff " is called mahogany obsidian.

Dave:  Looks like there are at least three of us from Washington on this board.  We'll all have to get together some day.

You got it! I do need to get back down to Glass Butes soon for more material. You guys up for car pooling down there? Maybe we can hitch a trailer on and load up Boulder of stuff! I was thinking the black butter that Jim Win uses might be fun to find too. That stuff knapps REAL NICE!!!

David T
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: GlassKnapper on October 11, 2009, 09:43:19 pm
Patrick Daly: 25 years old, Gm of a Jimmy Johns in Charlotte NC. Been knapping for just under two years, my brother Mike taught me about everything I know about it. Havent been Knapping as much as I would like to but I have too many other projects going on, I think most of us have that problem :-) Heres a pic of some recent projects,

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Didn't make the hawk head on the left but did make the haft
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: dogleg on October 13, 2009, 03:18:27 am
Name's Mike, from north central Wisconson.  I'm 41, a carpenter by trade, and work as an overhead door tech./installer.  Not even a knapper, yet, but as soon as I figure out what to do and how to do it, I'll be on my way. ;)

Started out thinking that making bows would be cool.  Then had to have arrows to match the bow, and now need something real to tip the arrows with.  Wonder where it'll all end.  Been nothin' but great, so far.

dogleg

Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: mullet on October 13, 2009, 08:23:07 am
 If anybody needs Dacite, Brian Melton is sitting on a ton of it.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: D. Tiller on October 13, 2009, 07:35:27 pm
Eddie one day you have got to meet up with me at Glass Buttes, OR. It will blow your mind! Obsidian, dacite and more for FREE!!!
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on October 13, 2009, 07:56:57 pm

     What city or cities are near Glass Buttes?  I will be living in Montana next year.


                                                           Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on October 13, 2009, 11:02:40 pm
It's relative, of course, but Glass Buttes isn't really very near anywhere.  It's located south of hwy 20 between Bend and Burns, Oregon.  It's 77 miles from Bend and about 50 miles from Burns, and, except for a trading post at Riley, where US 395 meets hwy 20, there are no services in between.  Riley is about 100 miles from Bend.  You'll find Glass Buttes shown on most maps and you can get a site map and info from the BLM office just west of Burns.  The road used to be marked by a small wooden sign that said "Obsidian Drive" or something like that, but the sign hasn't been there for years.  The road is located about 1/10 of a mile west of milepost 77.  You need to drive in on an often rutted and always rough road for several miles and there you are; dig anywhere!  It's a huge area, really, and I haven't been everywhere, but I can get more detailed than that if you want.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on October 13, 2009, 11:54:52 pm

     Thanks Newbow, now I have a general idea of how to get there.  Is there any private land I should be aware of?  Are there any motels, in the area, or is it just camping?  What about gas etc.  I see it is in the area of Newberry volcanic national monument.  I would love to get a truck load of obsidian.  Especially some of the mahogany, and other types.  I would like to get some dacite also.  I am driving out to Montana at the end of this month, to my house I am having built, and I will be there till after Thanksgiving, and then heading on back home, and then I will start hauling stuff out there, and be living there by the middle of next year.  I will be living in Thompson Falls.  So I guess I will be better off driving down to Missoula, and then cutting across Idaho, and taking 95 to 20.  I guess it will be a day drive or so.  I will definitely be going there when I move on out there.  How bad is the weather out there in November?  Anything I should bring with me, besides, a shovel, and pick, gloves, and knapping tools?  Is the area, you can dig for rock, easily recognizable?  I don't want to start digging on someone's private property.  Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

                                                                     Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on October 14, 2009, 12:55:48 am
I've seen a site map someplace on the Internet, but I can't find it now.  I guess I'll have to draw one.  Mahogany is the easiest to find and collect as there is a whole hill of the stuff with more surface rock than you can probably imagine.  Not a lot of size to it.  I did pick up a couple of 30-40 pounders there this last May, but most will be head size or smaller.  What is handy and more economical (little waste) is that you can pick around on the hillside and find up some really nice natural spalls; some are almost like sawn slabs.  I got a 5gal bucket of those in less than an hour.  The mahogany is nice quality, too.  There are motels in Burns, which is closer and the way you'd be coming.  I've always camped (truck camper) so don't know about what they'd cost.  I'm told that there is some private property way back, but you're unlikely to find it.  It's all BLM (Bureau of Land Management) land and you can dig anywhere.  There used to be a limit of 250lbs per person, per day, but I believe that has been reduced to per year.  Having said that, there is no one watching at the gate.  In November you probably won't even see anybody except possibly a hunter.  I've never seen a BLM agent in there. but that doesn't mean they never check.  Forewarned and all that.  It's open range (though there may not be cattle there in November) but it is split up with a very few fences.  You probably won't need to go through a fence, but if you do, always leave the gate the way you found it, either open or closed.  I have site maps here, someplace.  I'll look around a bit more before I draw one.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on October 14, 2009, 01:42:32 am

     Hey, thanks, I appreciate that.  I doubt that I will have time to go in Nov. but I was just wondering. 

                                                              Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on October 14, 2009, 04:22:34 am
Here's a very rough map, but it will get you around.  You asked about tools:  I would recommend a small shovel (fox hole type or similar), a large pry bar, a small, straight pry bar (say 24") and a small sledge (4lbs).  I've found it much easier, when working in a hole, to use the sledge and short bar to work the rock, and a small shove works easier than a full size one.  You often see a pick suggested, but a pick doesn't work nearly as well, in my opinion, as a large pry bar, which works the ground (rocks) with less shock and more accuracy.  The first trip I made there was with a full size shovel and a pick and it was murder.  A rock hammer would be handy but not critical, if you wanted to add another tool.

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: stickbender on October 14, 2009, 10:24:45 am

     NewBow, thanks, I really appreciate the map.  It sure helps when you have some idea of where you are going, when you go there for the first time.  Yeah, I bought a rock hammer the last time I was out in Montana.  Hard to find.  Even down here.  They have no clue, when you ask for it.  I asked for a rock hammer, and they thought I meant a pneumatic hammer, so I said a masonry hammer.  Nope didn't have one.  I finally found one in Billings.  Short handled though.  Strange. ::)  I have a nice German military entrenching tool, with a nice pick on it.  I have a nice five pound hammer, and some wrecking bars, and a short, about four foot, of 1" by 1" square stainless steel bar stock.  I think I might have a long pry bar somewhere here.  Thanks again,

                                                                                Wayne
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: Newbow on October 21, 2009, 03:20:56 pm
Stickbender:  Here's that pic:



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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: venisonburger on October 21, 2009, 11:33:47 pm
Mark Ostrenga, Menominee MI, in da UP, not up as far as Dana but still the same, I've been knapping off and on for about a year or so maybe longer, right now I'm in a stage where I haven't had the fever as bad, been hunting so everything gets put aside. won't be long and I'll chip some rock and build some more bows.
I just turned 46 this month.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: biddysere on October 24, 2009, 12:22:34 am
Been knapping since 1979. Raised in NW Florida but got serious in "85 when in Washington state. So, Don't know if that makes me a westerner or easterner?  I'm just a part- timer, my knapping comes in waves. along with all the other primitive technology skills I play with. Knappin has come along way in a short time, as everyones pictures shows the value of spreading the word and experimenting. What I've could've done with the internet and knap-ins back then! When I started, I probably heard of a half a dozen people in the U.S. that were knappin'. Living in Lower Alabama now. If there are any knappers around that would like to get together and break some rocks, give me a shout!
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: HoBow on October 25, 2009, 04:28:59 pm
Biddyspere- how close to Mobile?
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: 65x55 swedis on October 25, 2009, 09:30:58 pm
name is Stanley live in lewiston idaho 17yrs old and been knapping for about a year now and learned a lot. here are all of my pionts and one knife the the bets knapping in the world but i am getting better. only worked with obsidian so far but like it a lot. would like to try flint though

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: canidsong on December 15, 2009, 11:07:19 pm
I'm Justin in central california, 25. I've been knapping for about 2 years I think, on and off, but thoroughly addicted. I mostly knap obsidian and synthetic glass, but I'll play with anything I can lay my hands on. I also make self and laminate bows, knives and other things. I'm an obsessive DIY guy. I consider it one of my life goals to become as well educated as your average paleo-human.

(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/knapping/IMG_0560.jpg)

(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/knapping/IMG_0591.jpg)

(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/knapping/point2-strippedobsidian.jpg)

(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/knapping/axe1-mahoganyobsidianwalnuthandle02.jpg)

(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/knapping/porcelain_cactus_unsheathed.jpg)

(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/arrows/boo_obsidian_goose.jpg)

fair progress from some of my early bottle glass points:
(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/knapping/earlypoints.jpg)
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: jcinpc on December 15, 2009, 11:53:59 pm
NAme is Jeff, live in Plant City Florida, 5th generation Floridian, like Eddie not many of us around here anymore. I am a digger/divier of artifacts and have never knapped before. Claude has been trying to teach me to knap for a few years but I just havent wanted to get into another obession yet.lol.

In my over 25 years of collecting i have found coral sites that are now under construction and have been taking it home for years now. Claude taught me how cook it a few years ago and now I`m getting in to bifacing it. I find that working the rock comes easy to me, maybe its from sitting around and talking to Claude and watching what he does. I have an appreciation for the skill of it and latley have been finding myself out back sitting by my pit and rock pile taking cooked spalls out and start to work them more.. I can spall all day long but never progressed anymore towards flintknapping.  I love to see what others do with it.

I got into cabbing my coral  so at least I do something with it. My girlfriend is Puerto Rican so I`m always busy making some kind of bling for her. Warhawk can agree with that huh? haha  Y`all keep up the good work because some of are watching and learning.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/jcinpc/cabs%20and%20slabs%20and%20jewelry/thDSCF4609-2.jpg)
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/jcinpc/cabs%20and%20slabs%20and%20jewelry/coralpile.jpg)
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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: leapingbare on December 16, 2009, 01:37:57 am
Jcinpc, you sure got some purdy rocks there.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: jamie on December 17, 2009, 03:39:30 pm
same as hillbilly except my name is jamie and i live in ct. and i plant trees not look for em.  ;D
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: II BYRDS on December 18, 2009, 11:05:42 am
My name is Niizh Bineshii ( II byrds ) in Ojibwa. Male 48 Ohio. Started studying the native tribe of the Anishanabie ( Ojibwa ) looking for alternatives to modern medicins for prostate cancer. Past five years of going to per 1840s rendezvous, looking to making all of my own things, bags, powder horns, knives so on and so forth. Talking to a gentleman here at work i new he had made arrows in the past. come to find out he is a bow/arrow maker from heritage. His great grandfather was a tool maker for the native tribe Cherokee and his grandfather was his teacher. He, Dan was just a young fella helped grandpaw make bows and arrows for the children for a Cherokee reservation. So Dan and i have become good friends and having Dan as my teacher has helped a lot. Now Dan has moved to Utah and i am on my own and not finding much time for napping. Dan did send me a very large box of obsidian, so maybe this spring i will find time to do some napping. If any of you like to read take some time and read the books. Earth Children's series by Jean Auel these will take you back 20,000 years.

Miig Wicth
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: DanaM on December 18, 2009, 11:42:40 am
II Byrds, I've read those books and I thourghly enjoyed them :)
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: canidsong on December 18, 2009, 09:01:02 pm
My name is Niizh Bineshii ( II byrds ) in Ojibwa. Male 48 Ohio. Started studying the native tribe of the Anishanabie ( Ojibwa ) looking for alternatives to modern medicins for prostate cancer. Past five years of going to per 1840s rendezvous, looking to making all of my own things, bags, powder horns, knives so on and so forth. Talking to a gentleman here at work i new he had made arrows in the past. come to find out he is a bow/arrow maker from heritage. His great grandfather was a tool maker for the native tribe Cherokee and his grandfather was his teacher. He, Dan was just a young fella helped grandpaw make bows and arrows for the children for a Cherokee reservation. So Dan and i have become good friends and having Dan as my teacher has helped a lot. Now Dan has moved to Utah and i am on my own and not finding much time for napping. Dan did send me a very large box of obsidian, so maybe this spring i will find time to do some napping. If any of you like to read take some time and read the books. Earth Children's series by Jean Auel these will take you back 20,000 years.

Miig Wicth

those books spoke to me strongly.
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: flinthills50 on December 21, 2009, 12:09:20 am
Cool thread! I'm Craig from Eureka, Ks. I "know" some of you from Paleoplanet. woodbow1 is a friend of mine and he suggested I join PA too. I've been knapping for a little more than 5 years now. I'll be 60 next year(Well, My BODY will be 60!). How this twentysomething mind got HERE, is a complete mystery to me! ;D I retired 4 yrs. ago after working 34 yrs. in the oil industry. Was a MP in the army before that, and juat a smartarse kid prior! I found my first arrowhead in 1959 and have been fasinated ever since! I've always liked to huntnfish, so naturally, after learning how to make a point, I had to learn how to make a bownarrow! I've hunted deer the last two seasons with my sticknstones unsucessfully so far, BUT, I have enjoyed the hunt more than I EVER thought possible! I've still got lots to learn, hopefully there's still plenty of time to try! If I can figure out how to post pictures, they will be of some of my most recent points. All were slabs or flakes because of the cold weather. I just did some pressure flaking in by the woodstove in the shop. Well, thats my story and I'm stickin to it! Craig

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Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: mjflinty on December 21, 2009, 12:43:03 am
Hi all,

I'm Michael Miller, I've been knapping since age 12... 17 years later I'm 29 and a professional archeologist. I grew up in Ohio and now reside in Maryland. You have probably visited my website http://www.FlintKnappers.com  (http://www.FlintKnappers.com). Here's an example of my work
(http://www.flintknappers.com/michael/images/mm1410.jpg)

Good chipping,
Michael
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: jcinpc on December 21, 2009, 01:56:41 am
hey Michael, good to see you here. You do some fine work
Title: Re: Who are we?
Post by: FlintWalker on December 21, 2009, 02:39:57 am
Good to see you both here. I just signed up on Paleo Planet a few days ago.  Would any of you "crossovers" ;D care to try and explain how to post pictures over there? ???