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Title: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 21, 2018, 04:42:17 pm
I've had issues with my lower back ever since an accident when I was in school.  I haven't been very smart with how I've taken care of it since then.  In fact, I've been pretty stupid with some of the things I've done over the years.  I figured it was time to start taking care of it better.  I started looking into ways to load logs and other heavy objects without physically picking them up.  This is what I came up with.     

Last summer I found an old boat trailer for a good price.  It didn't look like much. 

(https://i.imgur.com/dfFE39Zh.jpg)

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I sanded, primered, painted, added supports under the deck, added side pockets, and beefed up the tongue. I also added a receiver in the front to plug a winch into.

(https://i.imgur.com/E94dUW3h.jpg)


I decided to go with an arch lifting rig.   It uses a winch and a pivoting arch to lift logs onto the trailer.  I use a 4000 lb winch and a snatch block to move the arch.  You lower arch and chain it to a log.  When you pull the arch back up it lifts the log and sets it on the trailer.  You have to readjust the position on the log once.  To unload them I chained them to the UTV and just drug them off the back of the trailer.  It takes a little longer than loading by hand but it saves a lot of back aches.  I'm going to use it to load and haul a tractor tiller box for my brother in law later this week.  I plan to build a smaller ATV log hauler as soon as I can find the right kind of axles. 

My Dad had to supervise the operation.

(https://i.imgur.com/VO5g8ZOh.jpg)

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Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: DC on February 21, 2018, 04:49:11 pm
Very cool! Lots of reflex(or deflex) in that log ;D
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: bjrogg on February 21, 2018, 04:54:17 pm
 Very cool Clint. I'm sure you will make great use of it. Lot of work handling all those long logs. That should save a load off your back.
Bjrogg
PS next you'll have to figure a way to get it to split and clean up the back. It might as well seal the ends and backs right away to.  )W( :BB and nice logs👍
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Marc St Louis on February 21, 2018, 05:00:32 pm
Yes that is pretty cool.  I would imagine that it might get interesting if you don't have the trailer well hitched to your truck
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 21, 2018, 05:12:32 pm
Yes that is pretty cool.  I would imagine that it might get interesting if you don't have the trailer well hitched to your truck

I made supports to go in the back side pockets right behind the wheels.  Kind of like out riggers on a crane.  It kept the trailer from sinking in the back.  It was more stable than I expected. 
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 21, 2018, 05:27:20 pm
Brilliant engineering.
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 21, 2018, 06:00:59 pm
Brilliant engineering.

Redneck engineering   ;D
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Tracker0721 on February 21, 2018, 06:52:47 pm
That’s gotta be the coolest trailer I’ve seen! Maybe a cup holder for a beer but it seems about perfect for the job!
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Chippintuff on February 21, 2018, 09:58:40 pm
I like the idea, but I would make one change. I would make the lifting frame an A Frame instead of a Square Frame. You should get a lot of use out of that rig.

How heavy is that frame to lift? Is it a struggle to get it into place and then to disconnect. I know the winch can pull it up, but it looks like there will be some hand work to get it positioned and hooked up, then to disconnect and put down.

WA
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: bubby on February 21, 2018, 10:17:26 pm
Another cool build from the master of redneck engineering!!
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 21, 2018, 10:56:44 pm
I thought about going with an A frame but decided against it.  With the 2 supports in the corners it's plenty strong enough for what I need to lift. 
I only have to lift the arch one time while setting it up.  I take it past vertical and hook the winch to it.  Its a little heavy but nothing compared to lifting a large log. 
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Hawkdancer on February 21, 2018, 11:03:48 pm
Looks real handy!  Should even handle a moose!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: chamookman on February 22, 2018, 03:13:15 am
Way cool Clint  :OK ! Gotta take care of that back - wish I'd done that (wised up) at Your age. Bob
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Pappy on February 22, 2018, 06:05:42 am
Very nice Clint, yep beats trying to pick them up. ;)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Stoker on February 22, 2018, 09:19:59 am
Pretty cool.. Anything to save a back..
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 22, 2018, 09:45:36 am
Very cool! Lots of reflex(or deflex) in that log ;D

Watch it Don! I already have dibs on that one :)
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: BowEd on February 22, 2018, 09:50:52 am
Yep Clint...That might lighten up the supply of icy hot for ya.
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 22, 2018, 06:33:40 pm
I didn't get any pictures of it but we loaded that 600 lb tiller box with the trailer today.  It worked great.  It lifted it and set it down on the trailer very easily. 
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 23, 2018, 07:32:26 am
You could probably sell your services once folks catch wind. You'd se surprised how often folks can use a tool like that.
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: ksnow on February 23, 2018, 08:59:40 am
That's what I was thinking Pearl.  Osage Outlaw, travelling stave cutting service.

Kyle
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Hawkdancer on February 23, 2018, 11:07:54 am
Have log trailer  will travel?
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 23, 2018, 11:12:30 am
How about wood stoves? Those are the biggest pain in the arse to move. That bugger would pick it right up nicely. Speedy delivery, Clint McFeely :)

Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: burchett.donald on February 23, 2018, 01:58:07 pm
  Nice rig Clint...That will make things much easier for you, be careful...
                                                                                                              Don
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: BowEd on February 23, 2018, 03:02:56 pm
I'll say this.It's a bit cheaper than a tractor and loader bucket that's for sure.
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Knoll on February 23, 2018, 03:05:31 pm
Give yourself the credit ya deserve . . . redneck brilliant engineering.
 :OK
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: selfbow joe on February 23, 2018, 04:07:06 pm
Very cool idea Clint. That going to same on your back.
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Parnell on February 23, 2018, 05:02:32 pm
That's very cool, Clint!  Sounds like you'd do well with an inversion table, too.
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 23, 2018, 05:57:56 pm
I hadn't thought about moving wood stoves or renting out my services.  That's an idea.  I thought it would work good for pulling T posts out of the ground. 
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: paulsemp on February 23, 2018, 06:30:30 pm
Good job! Soon you'll be out of sewage and into metal work. Food for thought where you punch the hole through the tube and have that Bolt probably a good idea to get a grade 8 Automotive Bolt. regular soft steel bolts you find at the hardware store you'd be amazed and how quickly that hole in that tube will wear right through it. Another option is to drill a bigger hole and weld in a piece of round tube so puts the weight evenly on the bolt and not in a cutting shearing action. You may have already done that but just a thought
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Aaron H on February 23, 2018, 07:13:29 pm
Very well done Clint
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 23, 2018, 07:28:02 pm
You are one crafty devil Mr. Outlaw. I don't know what I wish I had more, that rig or those logs.  O:)
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 23, 2018, 08:49:16 pm
Good job! Soon you'll be out of sewage and into metal work. Food for thought where you punch the hole through the tube and have that Bolt probably a good idea to get a grade 8 Automotive Bolt. regular soft steel bolts you find at the hardware store you'd be amazed and how quickly that hole in that tube will wear right through it. Another option is to drill a bigger hole and weld in a piece of round tube so puts the weight evenly on the bolt and not in a cutting shearing action. You may have already done that but just a thought

I'm already on it Paul.  Those are 2 very large grade 8 bolts.  The biggest I could find. 
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Zuma on February 26, 2018, 08:44:34 am
How do you unload?
A while back I would easily fulcrum jack with blocks one end of a log
high enough to enter the rear of my maxi van.
Then simply back up. !2-14 foot logs 16' dia. no problem.  Tie to something
sturdy and drive away to unload. Needed to steak the log at far end
once and a while. )W( )W(
Zuma
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 26, 2018, 08:52:40 am
I pull the logs off with a UTV when I get them to my splitting stand.  I believe I could make a position locking mechanism for the arch and unload them with that if I had to.  Right now just dragging them off the back is working good. 
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Zuma on February 26, 2018, 09:03:54 am
Cool, That would help with objects like wood stoves. (S)
Zuma
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: osage outlaw on February 26, 2018, 09:24:37 am
I would love to build a saw mill sometime.  If I do that I'll be using this trailer a lot. 
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Zuma on February 27, 2018, 08:22:06 am
I would love to build a saw mill sometime.  If I do that I'll be using this trailer a lot.

I had two buddies that saw logs on their home built mills.
Wish you could tap their brains but one past and the other
is 80 and hates computers. I still have many of the oak, cedar and maple log
timbers they sawed for me.  I sawed the redwood in California and trucked it back to VA
The spalted maple tree fell on my X's mom's house so I slabbed some up.
Did both with a chain saw.  )W( )W( )-w(
Zuma
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 27, 2018, 09:37:48 am
Good use of redneck ingenuity there Clint!
Now if I could just find some Osage like that in my neck of the woods.  I've lived in poplar bluff mo for a year now and have yet to see one Osage tree.  Lots of hackberry though.

Patrick
Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 27, 2018, 01:51:04 pm
I have done a lot of chainsaw slabbing trying to get flintlock stock material, even thought of buying a chainsaw mill but that would necessitate my buying a much larger saw than my stihl 029.

All the logs I slabbed had hidden flaws that canceled out the prospect of getting good stock material. I got a few marginal ones.

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Title: Re: Log loading trailer
Post by: Stoner on February 27, 2018, 02:16:48 pm
Don't know how I missed this thread. GREAT JOB !!! John