Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: youngbowyer on December 08, 2008, 06:37:31 pm
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Hi well my next set of arrows is almost on its way . With LINEN binding thread ;D
But want i want to prevent this time is when I add horn inserts i use sand paper to take of the exess horn. usually i accidently sand away the wood. How can I prevent doing this? using a file maybe? Btw thankyou everyone for helping me with my linen binding thread!
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Nice to see you have made a decision on what binding to use :) . Also if you happen to have a belt sander, use it for such a task. I have heard it works, but be carefull ( i lost some of my finger using one).
Nick
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i dont have any electric tools. I stay authentic.( no i dont have money to buy one:P)
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I don't know what to tell you than keep experimenting.
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thanks anyway. Anybody else??? Is this in the Secretsoftheenglishwarbow.com?
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Nice to see you have made a decision on what binding to use :) . Also if you happen to have a belt sander, use it for such a task. I have heard it works, but be carefull ( i lost some of my finger using one).
what do you actually use?
Nick
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I use Somac because its what i have, but i will switch to a thinner substitute after this substitute.
Nick
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i meant the tools you use for the horn.
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I use Somac because its what i have, but i will switch to a thinner substitute after this batch of arrows is made
Nick
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No mate i have never actually made a horn reinforced arrow.
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Owh. What pound bow do yo use, and what diamer?
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70lb English longbow (sadly not an English warbow). I don't know exactly what you mean by diametre?
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70lb English longbow (sadly not an English warbow). I don't know exactly what you mean by diametre?
sry i meant diameter. and what wood do you use for arrows!
I might get away with wrapping the arrows with my 45 pound english longbow.
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If you meant diametre at the handle it is 30x36mm. I use american ash imported from Richard head. You will for sure get away with wrapping a nock when it is a 45 lb bow.
Nick
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No need to add a Horn insert for arrows shot from a 45# Bow,just wrap your Linen under the Nock to strengthen it.Personally i alway's add the Horn Sliver's no matter what strength bow there intended for,it's not necessary but i like to do it.
The Horn 'Sliver's' supplied by Richard Head i find too thick and too short,it's better to buy the larger flat sections of Horn'i think he sells it..?I like the Horn to be 2" Long and 1-2mm thick,but to each his own :).
Tools i use for adding the Inserts,
Japanese Saw or a Backsaw to make the cut.
These tools are good for getting a nice thin straight line as the saw only cuts one way,allthough you can buy a Jig if you want.
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/Tudor%20War%20Arrows/1cutthenocklw8.jpg)
Araldite two part epoxy or a good quality Super Glue to bond the Horn to the wood.
24hrs drying time for the Epoxy or a couple of Hours with the super glue.
Emory Cloth to tidy up or you can use a file and sandpaper.
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/Tudor%20War%20Arrows/3shapinghq9.jpg)
I also wrap thread under the Nock,you can never be too carefull! :)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/Tudor%20War%20Arrows/zfdfgf.jpg)
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thankyou loki, you helped me a lot.
I always put horn inserts in for the look and also so my arrows will last long!
Just a couple of questions(that's what i am known for, my questions:P)
When you put in the horn do you file away the exess horn or do you saw it away?
I have all those tools except a bandsaw. Thanks!!
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I dont have a Bandsaw either,it's a hand held Backsaw ;D.
I use Emery Cloth to remove the excess horn and to shape the top of the arrow,it chew's through wood!
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How do you guys get your horn inserts? Do you just buy a cow horn and saw it into strips? How do you get it close to right thickness?
Thanks,
John
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How do you guys get your horn inserts? Do you just buy a cow horn and saw it into strips? How do you get it close to right thickness?
Start another topic!!! kidding.
I import mine from england. www.thelongbowshop.com they sell horn inserts that are allready cut in strips thats are 1.2 inches wide and they are 3.2 inches long and 3 millimeters thick. They ship anywhere in the world! Just choose the currencey on the box in the left. Hope this helps!
Tom
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Thanks for the info youngbowyer. That place is out of stock and when I inquired by e-mail (recieved a reply in about half an hour) he stated that he'd be out of stock for a few weeks. Anyone have any sources hidden away?
Thanks,
John
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Hi, if you want to buy in bulk go for highland horn http://www.highlandhorn.com/ARCHERY/12.htm Their catalogue wont be back up until the start of Januray but they sell bulk packs which work out much cheaper. Richard Head sells them, though I'm not sure if he has them in stock at the moment http://www.english-longbow.co.uk/cat20.htm
If you have the facilities to cut them yourself then 3 rivers have blocks of horn http://www.3riversarchery.com/product.asp?i=6339
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Thanks for the info youngbowyer. That place is out of stock and when I inquired by e-mail (recieved a reply in about half an hour) he stated that he'd be out of stock for a few weeks. Anyone have any sources hidden away?
Thanks,
John
If the guy says theyll be back in a couple of weeks it is true. He is very honest! I would wait till they r back.
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If your stuck for horn you can use plastic from old DVD boxes,i've never tried it but some of the lads on the WarBow site allway's use it.The Boxes are the perfect thickness and you can cut them however long you like with a pair of strong scissors,i think it's actually stronger than Horn but obviously the authenticity goes out the window :).