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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Ben.Kellerman on March 30, 2018, 12:58:31 pm

Title: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Ben.Kellerman on March 30, 2018, 12:58:31 pm
Just cut down a 7ish foot chunk of what I believe/hope is sugar maple?  Now what?  I put a coat of spray lacquer on the ends already?  I'm pretty impatient.  Best ways to speed dry?
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: PatM on March 30, 2018, 01:02:01 pm
Split and de-bark.  You can get Maple done in  a hurry.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Ben.Kellerman on March 30, 2018, 01:08:11 pm
Thanks Pat!  I've never split a tree this size.  Just logs for the camp fire.  Any suggestions for a newbie?
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 30, 2018, 01:12:44 pm
Don't try to split that pole, odds are the split will run out and ruin it. Make one bow from it. Rough a bow out at least 20% over sized and let it sit in 50% humidity, or less, for about 6 months. Then finish it.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Aksel on March 30, 2018, 02:18:17 pm
If you want to split it I would recommend not to split it from one end, risk is you will end up with no stave at all. Split it with several axes or wedges along the side even though maple splits pretty easy. Just to be safe!
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Ben.Kellerman on March 30, 2018, 02:47:43 pm
Thanks folks. Aksel, when you make a sapling bow, how do you split those in half?  Wondering because I also cut a small maybe 2in cherry sapling.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Aksel on March 30, 2018, 02:51:04 pm
No not if the trunk is under 4 inches usually and I want a deep handle
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: PatM on March 30, 2018, 03:15:46 pm
Maple does  tend to split very cleanly.  I would start splitting and monitor how it starts and then make a decision to stop and just hatchet away the worst side if it looks like it's headed the wrong way.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: DC on March 30, 2018, 04:15:34 pm
When I do saplings I saw in at an angle to just shy of the center where the fades will be and then split from there out. Just use a large chisel in the saw kerf to get started.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Bryce on March 30, 2018, 04:19:42 pm
Don't try to split that pole, odds are the split will run out and ruin it. Make one bow from it. Rough a bow out at least 20% over sized and let it sit in 50% humidity, or less, for about 6 months. Then finish it.

Exactly. Runnher through the bandsaw
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Ben.Kellerman on March 30, 2018, 07:43:01 pm
Thanks again everyone.  This community is unbelievable.  I roughed out one of the maple staves and I'm actually quite pleased with how it came out( I'll post some pics after i edit to resize).  The cherry stave has me sweating though.  I know I've seen a lot of "curvy" bows on here so I know its possible but this thing definitely has some character to it.  I've been sitting here staring at it waiting for it to tell me which side wants to be the back.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 30, 2018, 11:35:52 pm
Ben,
Grab another beverage, blow a wee bit of smoke, ( kinnikinnick, of course) at it, and it'll tell you >:D >:D :BB!  Don't know for sure, but look at the curves and the knots.  I think the side with the least knots and the curves to meet your idea should work.  On the other hand, you're way ahead of me!
Hawkdancer.   
Keep smiling, they'll wonder what the heck you're up to!
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Bryce on March 30, 2018, 11:36:35 pm
Thanks again everyone.  This community is unbelievable.  I roughed out one of the maple staves and I'm actually quite pleased with how it came out( I'll post some pics after i edit to resize).  The cherry stave has me sweating though.  I know I've seen a lot of "curvy" bows on here so I know its possible but this thing definitely has some character to it.  I've been sitting here staring at it waiting for it to tell me which side wants to be the back.
You’re gonna wanna back that cherry
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Ben.Kellerman on March 31, 2018, 08:02:52 am
Here is the maple roughed out.  Anyway to speed drying from here?
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: PatM on March 31, 2018, 10:47:52 am
Just let it sit in a cool spot for about 10 days and then move it to a warmer area.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: bushboy on March 31, 2018, 11:18:27 am
I've heard of putting it in a black abs plumbing pipe and put it in the sun with both ends open for air movement.i  do agree with Pat to allow the piece stabilize somewhere cool for a while or it will likely plit,
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: hoosierf on April 02, 2018, 02:50:02 pm
I've heard of putting it in a black abs plumbing pipe and put it in the sun with both ends open for air movement.i  do agree with Pat to allow the piece stabilize somewhere cool for a while or it will likely plit,

I’d also clamp it down to keep the twisties away and you can also introduce a we bit of reflex.
Title: Re: Sugar Maple?
Post by: Springbuck on April 04, 2018, 10:19:46 pm
"when you make a sapling bow, how do you split those in half?"

I might split a 4" log, but not a 2", and I wouldn't try that one with all the big knots on one side.  What I do on a log like that is run a kerf down each side with the tip of a chainsaw, just an inch or less deep, then drive a wedge into the middle of the log.  With knots like that, I'd cut it most of the way through.

The other good method is to saw into the side you don't want, maybe halfway through a 4" log, or whatever, every few inches.  More around the rough spots.  Leave yourself plenty of wood to make a bow with.  Then come along and knock the blocks between the cuts off with a hatchet, machete, or big chisel.