Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: blackhawk on December 18, 2013, 06:38:43 pm
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......NUFF SAID :P 8)
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I agree.
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I agree too although it depends on what you consider a longbow
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ill take a short bow when im hiding in the bushes watching elk walk by. now if your a sissy then your probably in a tree, where a long bow is more appropriate.
theres no doubt they are better performing and better shooting but there is something about i good short bow that just does it for me :)
in a way i agree with you. longbows rule, BUT i drool over a short bow >:D
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Chris, I used to make my bows mostly at about 62", they have creeped up to 66" NTN. Smoother, less wear and tear on the wood for me easier to shoot. I love my shorties especially in the bush chasing rabbits but 10 yards is about it for me.
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Longer bows are easier and more forgiving to shoot, and are more accurate IMHO. For hunting, it becomes a trade off between accuracy and convenience.
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I guess if you're not skilled enough to make and use a short bow then a longbow is a good crutch to still play at this game.
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I was always told that it' snot length so much as it is how well it shoots. >:D >:D >:D
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I have to agree with adb's comments regarding ease of shooting and accuracy with a longer bow but I still prefer to hunt with bows around 56" to 62" length. And yes I've missed my share of animals from the ground and also when hunting like a sissy from a tree. ;D My short draw and snap shooting habits prefer the quick pointability of a shorter bow at close range shots. At least thats what I tell myself. :o
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I'll add that I also just like the look. feel and ease of carry of a shorter bow in the woods. Didn't use to be that way for me, just is now.
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I've always liked longer bows for the reasons mentioned above but for some reason I have only built shorty the last few years. I do have a piece of lemonwood that James Parker gave me a few year ago and a hickory backing strip that I plan to make a Hill style bow with. Maybe that will get me back in longer bows...although with a 26" draw I don't want to go too long.
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What the others said, LOL!
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Boy BH stirring up a little $4i7 aren't you :) Or should I say food for thought. ;) I like it.
Thanks
DBar
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I prefer a short bow any day!! However, there's no denying longer bows are smoother, and easier to shoot. But i would still rather have a shorty in the woods!!
Tattoo Dave
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Wow! You are posting some incredible longer bows lately, buddy. It seems you are upping your game on finish and appearance, too. And you seem to be spending an inordinate amount of effort championing their cause.
Compensating for something, are we?
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I guess if you're not skilled enough to make and use a short bow then a longbow is a good crutch to still play at this game.
More than enough said!! Short bows are for real men.
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I like them both.
When I am up a tree like a sissy (that kind of talk can cause you problems in south alabama! ;D), I have hunted with bows as long as 72". I think they are quiet and smooth on release and I shoot them a little more accurately. My favorites these days have been 66" and pulling 55 -60lbs. I think that is the best all around bow for me.
From the ground, I do favor short bendy handle bows - simple D style, 56" - 60" and pulling in the mid forties. Quiet and deadly. Little short bows like that have made a lot of meat through the ages. I think that the short bows are as accurate as the long bows at hunting ranges. In my opinion, it is easy to over bow yourself with the short bows. Keeping the poundage in the forties makes a quiet straight shooting hunting bow for me. To each his own.
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I like them all - just depends on what I have in My hand at the time O:) ! Bob
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Yep ,stirring the pot again. :) I will go for medium ,not to long not to short,just right. ;) and FYI Pine/chip I ant a sissy. >:( ;) :)
Pappy
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Ok my long 4 year hunting primitive equipment career has brought me to taking on the idea of a longer bow. The reason is simple a more accurate bow is a plus. Now the longer bow will require a small change in hunting style but it will not be as big of a change as the primitive conversion was from compound. I don't think a couple inched at each end is going to kill me. I do know that my mid size bow shoots better than my plains indian bow that I only use for shootin fish. I would be willing to bet that a long bow will be in my hand come Oct 1 next year.
Besides any guy that says he doesn't want a couple more inches is a liarrrrrrr >:D >:D
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Patm...that's the thing...you can take someone who is competent at the short bow,and then give them a longbow and odds are highly stacked in the favor that he will shoot a longbow even better,and even better at the shorter hunting distances too...and I have not met anyone yet in this day and age who is a crack shot with a short bow past 15 yards..
I hunt exclusively from the ground in the thick eastern woodland hill country,and haven't sat in a stand in over 4 years now(just don't seem right holding a selfbow in a modern stand)...and more times than not now I take a 69" overall length bow with me...if I can manuveuer my 74"+ tall frame thru the woods stealthily, than so can a longbow...I'd rather give myself the best chance with what I shoot best and think its the better tradeoff in the woods..besides when hunting are we running thru the woods? Nope....we move at a crawl...I still occasionally shot and hunt with a sub 60" bow due to convienece,but I know I'm better with the longbow ;)
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I like em all, but for stand hunting I prefer something between 56 -60" or so, spot and stalk hog hunting maybe a little longer than that. I get what youre saying with the selfbow and modern treestand but I still do it just because I feel that is my best shot at making meat around here, to each his own i guess. :)
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Chris
I hope I have not corrupted you !
Any way good job getting things stirred up !
Guy
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Good point Chris. I think I like making short bows better and shooting longer bows. For me it is easier to find shorter staves out here where things grow a little slower. :)
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Next you'll be buying a red corvette. So Chris, at what point does a bow actually become "long"? Past 72"? ;)
I'll play, reasons why short bows are better:
1. They're more efficient to carry if you are travelling.
2. They require less resource to be effective.
3. If the brush is thick...Florida, you may as well be hauling a cannon with a long bow.
4. They are going to get "dinged" less over time.
5. Not only can you shoot them from the ground, you can shoot them from a tree, a horse, the back of a moving vehicle, while moving "on your feet", somersaulting, flying through the air, general ninja behavior, stealth, etc.
6. They keep shooting interesting...long bows are predictable. How boring.
7. They require actual skill to shoot.
8. Long bows were generally useful for battlefields...then came firearms.
9. You can hide them under a trenchcoat!
10. They make better BACK SCRATCHERS! (Do not underestimate this one's importance!)
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<snip> I get what youre saying with the selfbow and modern treestand <snip>
Modern tree stand? Ha! I strictly use a hand twisted rope made of chew softened squirrel raw hide tied around my naked waist and bound into the fork of the tree with a quick release knot so that I can drop my ochre painted body down on top of the still writhing and struggling carcass of my prey and slash the last bit of life from it with my knapped flint dagger!
...and then I woke up and found I was stabbing my pillow with a bedroom slipper!
OneBow
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my hunting bows are in the 58-64" range and that is with a 26" draw. i make flipped tips bows that i hunt with 56-60" and haven't made a shortbow yet although i have shot some and i win 3d competitions with my bows but couldnt shoot that 52" bow worth crap. that bow that i just made was 68" long and shot SO accurate. i could hit a baseball at 30 yards nearly every time. so i definitely agree.
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@Parnell...
#1.a takedown longbow is shorter than a one piece shorty,and fits nicely in the back of my pack cruising the Appalachians here ;)
#2. Into his day and age its easy to aquire resource for a longbow,and billet length wood spliced is shorter than a one piece shorty ;) and easier to find n resource
#3.i m just not buying that one....Im an avid off trail woods navigator and been from sea to sea,border to border,sveral different countries on different continents and i ain't buying that one...ever try to crawl thru a true Appalachia laurel hell??AND even without a bow is impossible without a machete or saw...
#4. Not enough solid evidence to prove that..I got some pretty beat up shorties that have seen as much action as my longer bows...ain't buying that either ;)
#5. You can do all those of things to with a longbow...and how many people these days attempt to shoot an animal off a horses back,and attempting a shot at game from a car is pretty much illegal anywhere I know of where hunting is allowed...
#6 if your definition of interesting is spraying an inconsistent arrow more than a longbow than you need to check your thinker....the while point of a bow is being able to shoot it consistently
#7. So does a longbow,but its going to make ya even better all else equal
#8...then go use a gun for warfare...duh guns are better for that today ;)
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...refer to answer number one ;)
Out of all your points you still missed the most important one..and that's how well it shoots,and a longbow wins hands down in the most important category. <---- n that's a big period ;)
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Well, hell, I guess maybe you have a point! ;D
I love shorties but gotta say that unless you are on a horse's back, I'd agree. I've been enjoying really opening up my draw lately.
The next project is going to be a 68-70" long 1.25" wide Osage with good reflex and damn am I looking forward to it.
Just as much, lately I like a longer arrow. Now, I can shoot a 27" arrow from a short bow with a 25" draw pretty well. Hell, I've practiced. But give me the smooth longbow with minimal stack and maximum efficiency, when it counts. 32" arrows, please!
I still say that a short bow makes a better BACKSCRATCHER, though!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Preference and practice is all it takes to be a respectable shooter. I prefer my short bow because it's comfortable for me. JW now that's funny.
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All fun and games until someone gets their short feelings hurt or shoots their eye out... ::)
Short bows need loving also...
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Hey now, I love me a short bow. They feel good in the hand, probably better than "long" bows when carrying them around.
Hard to contest the shooting aspect, though. I've learned to shoot with stack, respectably, but there is a point to be made that if you were forced to shoot an apple off your son's head...what would you choose?
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Everyone knows its not about how long your bow is... its about how wide >:D
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Hey now, I love me a short bow. They feel good in the hand, probably better than "long" bows when carrying them around.
Hard to contest the shooting aspect, though. I've learned to shoot with stack, respectably, but there is a point to be made that if you were forced to shoot an apple off your son's head...what would you choose?
Depends on the son...
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AND, Lord knows, not that I'm looking to side with CHICKENHAWK!!! ;) ;D
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Hey now, I love me a short bow. They feel good in the hand, probably better than "long" bows when carrying them around.
Hard to contest the shooting aspect, though. I've learned to shoot with stack, respectably, but there is a point to be made that if you were forced to shoot an apple off your son's head...what would you choose?
Depends on the son...
Ha!
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I have to agree with BH. I started with a Kodiak Magnum in the early 80's. Since then 62" is about the shortest I will go. Currently working on a 72" Hickory bow. I have hunted all over the world, in all kinds of terrain and vegitation. Even in thick cover I prefer a longer bow. I have never hunted from a tree, as I am not a bird, and can only speak from exerience when I say a longer bow in thicker cover makes Me more mindful of My stalk on game....JMHO
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i love em both, i can shoot my shortie accurately at 15(most of the time) but when i just feel like shooting and not paying too much attention to my form and stuff then a long bow is better. so basically my long bows are for when im lazy.
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All you have do is deflex the handle and reflex the tips and a short bow is every bit as forgiving and smooth as a longer bow. At least that's what I heard 5000 times over......:)
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I agree BH, I like a longer bow for sure.
On another note, there sure is a lot of hating going on for tree stand hunters. :'( I love hunting from modern tree stands with my wood bows of a somewhat modern design and modern strings. But then again I like killin deer and feeding my modern family... Just sayin. And pine nut, I ain't no sissy either ;)
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Mark makes quite a few short deflex reflex recurves that do shoot very smooth. Recurves can be quite a bit shorter than a long bow and shoot just as smooth. I just finished a 58" recurve that feels like a 68" longbow. I just prefer the traditional style longbows as apersonnal thing.
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I agree BH, I like a longer bow for sure.
On another note, there sure is a lot of hating going on for tree stand hunters. :'( I love hunting from modern tree stands with my wood bows of a somewhat modern design and modern strings. But then again I like killin deer and feeding my modern family... Just sayin. And pine nut, I ain't no sissy either ;)
I would bet treestands were used in the past
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Mark makes quite a few short deflex reflex recurves that do shoot very smooth. Recurves can be quite a bit shorter than a long bow and shoot just as smooth. I just finished a 58" recurve that feels like a 68" longbow. I just prefer the traditional style longbows as apersonnal thing.
I was just picking on Mr Wishy Washy that started this whole debacle! 6 months ago the guy had no use for anything over 40" long! Now its all about 96" bows! Kids................:)
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I agree, if you aren't shooting from a horse, yew longbows are the pinnacle of archery ;)
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I agree Iowabow, I've always thought that. Our ancestors probably just perched on a limb :)
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Okay, are we hunting Primitive deer on the ground or 21st Century deer from a treestand? >:D
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I have not met anyone yet in this day and age who is a crack shot with a short bow past 15 yards..
Who are you shooting with? With practice one day you will be able to make a nice stable shortbow and shoot it well. ;)
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it's all relative to how the locals adapted to their hunting areas and style, in my area short sinew bows were the norm, and the na's hunted from ground blinds
Howard Hill one of the greatest said that he wasn't good enough to hunt with a short bow and that the perfect hunting bow was an alb with straight limbs and just a touch of follow
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@patm...already do ;) I whipped a group of us guys this summer (57" bow)and most all were shooting a longer bow than me(they just need to practice more is all)..but I can still shoot my longbows better yet....even tho you can make and design a short bow to feel like a longbow in the draw you still will never ever be able to make it as stable as a longbow(without attaching a long stabilizer),and that's just a fact and simple proven physics that's irrefutable no matter what witty comeback you say...how come we dont see Olympic archers toting around ~ 50" bows and winning? Why is it the common length today is 5-6 feet with long stabilizers attached? The stabilizers are giving the bow more "length"so to speak to "stabilize" a slightly shorter bow than what was used before glass which was around 70",and why did they then back in those times prefer those lengths? Better accuracy is why..plain n simple...if your so good then why don't you make a video of you shooting a few groups of arrows at 30 yards,and show us how its done ;)
Bub....Howard is pretty much still right ;)
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@patm...already do ;) I whipped a group of us guys this summer (57" bow)and most all were shooting a longer bow than me(they just need to practice more is all)..but I can still shoot my longbows better yet....even tho you can make and design a short bow to feel like a longbow in the draw you still will never ever be able to make it as stable as a longbow(without attaching a long stabilizer),and that's just a fact and simple proven physics that's irrefutable no matter what witty comeback you say...how come we dont see Olympic archers toting around ~ 50" bows and winning? Why is it the common length today is 5-6 feet with long stabilizers attached? The stabilizers are giving the bow more "length"so to speak to "stabilize" a slightly shorter bow than what was used before glass which was around 70",and why did they then back in those times prefer those lengths? Better accuracy is why..plain n simple...if your so good then why don't you make a video of you shooting a few groups of arrows at 30 yards,and show us how its done ;)
Bub....Howard is pretty much still right ;)
Define shortbow and longbow.... The longest yardage traditional style archery is still practiced with shortbows in Korea.
You are the one that is telling us how it's done without video....
btw I just looked up "humblebrag" in the urban dictionary and your picture is there. ;)
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In a debate when one resorts to name calling they show there true colors and maturity level.....thanks for showing and sharing yours patm ;) ...lmao :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Crap, let's let this part of the conversation die a quick death.
Chris...I don't see 57 inches as being a short bow, though. My book, about 57" to about 64" is medium length. A real shorty? Under 52"...
56" of bend through the handle osage can easily go to 28". That's no shorty!
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In a debate when one resorts to name calling they show there true colors and maturity level.....thanks for showing and sharing yours patm ;) ...lmao :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
NOBODY has actually shown anything proving one way or the other. Your original thread title was designed to needle people, don't get all offended when it gets turned back on you. You're a big boy now.
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I really like the look of longbows. They're just the iconic image of a bow IMO.
Now that I think of it though, I don't think I've ever made a real longbow. The longest I've ever gone was 68" I believe. I'll have to remedy that...
In a debate when one resorts to name calling they show there true colors and maturity level.....thanks for showing and sharing yours patm ;) ...lmao :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
NOBODY has actually shown anything proving one way or the other. Your original thread title was designed to needle people, don't get all offended when it gets turned back on you. You're a big boy now.
And a big boy needs a big bow. Longbows FTW!
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Maybe you 2 should pick yer weapons, pace off 10, turn and draw >:D ;D ;)
I don't know what's better for sure and probably neither do you guys. At least not for everybody else.
Obviously they all can kill something in the right hands and isn't that what this is about? Different styles, tribes, cultures, bows, whatever-it all works and it's all preference.
Now let's get back to having fun. Of course, maybe you guys love to argue. In that case-rock on dudes!
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Maybe you 2 should pick yer weapons, pace off 10, turn and draw >:D ;D ;)
I don't know what's better for sure and probably neither do you guys. At least not for everybody else.
Obviously they all can kill something in the right hands and isn't that what this is about? Different styles, tribes, cultures, bows, whatever-it all works and it's all preference.
Now let's get back to having fun. Of course, maybe you guys love to argue. In that case-rock on dudes!
Who get's their bows after they shoot each other? Better yet, who gets their stash of staves?
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Its hard to define with definitive numbers as to what constitutes as a short bow,or a longbow for that matter..because every bodies a little different....when I drop down to ~60" I really have to be in mind of my form(but I'm always in concentration of proper form) ,and getting below 60 the accuracy drops subtlety,and more so out past 20...now getting down to ~50"or less is when things take a lot of effort n practice to be able to shoot well(especially past 20)and not have your accuracy drop out of the bucket....sure there's cases of cultures who used a "short" bow well for there intentions(they put lots dmore time into it than we do generally speaking because it was pretty much there job) ,but that still doesn't mean a longbow is better for the majority of other folks....
Lol slackbunny....
n I'm far from being offended yet ;)
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Yep ,stirring the pot again. :)
Pappy
Hey pappy...how am I doing...lol >:D :laugh:
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Is a horse bow really that short for a 5 foot tall Japanese archer? Maybe not?
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The Japanese also used an excessively long bow, even on horseback. Likely to compensate for something or other. ;)
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Mmmm....that's sounds yumi pat....lol :laugh:
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I agree BH, I like a longer bow for sure.
On another note, there sure is a lot of hating going on for tree stand hunters. :'( I love hunting from modern tree stands with my wood bows of a somewhat modern design and modern strings. But then again I like killin deer and feeding my modern family... Just sayin. And pine nut, I ain't no sissy either ;)
I would bet treestands were used in the past
I agree what does it matter of you hunt in a tree stand with a self bow especially when you use all modern tools glues and finishes, why not hunt in a Modern tree stand ?? Lol I don't get the logic Behind it
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Some folks like to take a year+ to make and finish a bow,and then take three times the amount of time to learn how to shoot it well........me...id rather spend 6-10 hours into a simple stave longbow and be shooting it well later that same day.....I don't call that "compensating",I call that working smarter and not harder ;)
Now I'm sure someone is gonna take this out of context and say yada yada yada...or why don't ya just go buy the best rifle n scope money can buy :laugh:
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whole lotta blah blah blah going on here
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Yep ,stirring the pot again. :)
Pappy
Hey pappy...how am I doing...lol >:D :laugh:
ya, Stirring the pot...I'm with ya Pappy...................I think this could be a record for the most posts in on day ...Keep it going. ???
DBar
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I haven't seen much difference in a hunting situation between a 52" up to 65". If the game is behind the tree, no shot. I like 65" odd number..... just to be difficult.
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This has been flogged before, and will likely be again. http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=4118.0
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Check TBB Vol 4, page 132. Longbows vs short bows... pros and cons, from folks that are more savy on such things than me.
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That thread was from BBH. Not sure if he was even building bows way back then. >:D
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I guess if you're not skilled enough to make and use a short bow then a longbow is a good crutch to still play at this game.
Ouch
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I guess if you're not skilled enough to make and use a short bow then a longbow is a good crutch to still play at this game.
Ouch
Yah, I think if that was directed at me, I might be offended. Comes off pretty arrogant.
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That thread was from BBH. Not sure if he was even building bows way back then. >:D
BBH?
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"Before Blackhawk"
My shortbow comment was purely tongue in cheek and was really no more belittling than the thread title.
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Honestly guys, it's all a matter of perspective. What may be short for you may be just right for someone else. I'm 74+" tall and I find that bows in the 64" range to be just right for hunting. If I were target shooting I would go for a longer bow, mainly because they are more forgiving and less strained.
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I may have more than one friend that is a professional pot stirrer !
Love it when a good plan comes together
Keep it rolling !
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This is all very entertaining.....
Now let me tell you why Osage is an inferior bow wood... ;D
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Or why Yew is for wussies....
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I liked the pink handle discussion better. At least there was a chance of resolution ;D ;D ;D
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FYI...yes I was...just wasn't online or signed up to any forums...still not offended but I don't know how name calling and attacking someone's integrity helps here? ??? :-\
Marc your last sentence sums it up well simply
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you guys are killing me..... :) :)
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It's red, I swear it!
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Here I was thinking anything shorter than 64" was short.....
Let's not forget how important it is to have a well matched arrow. (should go without saying right?)
Now if you REALLY want to improve accuracy cut in a shelf and make it center shot. ::)
My brother is still trying to figure out why I was shooting so well the other day... >:D.
Not telling him....not until I can out shoot him by a mile. :laugh:
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Wow :o
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O Yew wussies....
>:D >:D
Stir pot!
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Sorry, Slimbob may not actually have said that. It may have been taken out of context. >:D >:D HAHAHAHA
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The term "humblebrag" is neither name-calling nor integrity questioning.
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That...was funny Doob!
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You guys are cracking me up.
I find that limb length doesn't matter as much as the skill of the archer ;)
a nice, 60" bendy-handle longbow is freaking accurate. Really freaking accurate.
Like 6" groups at 40 yards from a kid that doesn't practice much unless he's off school.
Also, draw weight plays a huge factor... and short bows stack more, weigh less(less mass=less inertia=less resistance to torque).... and also arrows make a big huge diff.
I can plop carbons into a target easily with a black locust stickbow, nearly completly untillered.
if I shoot arrows weighing b/t 300 grains and 800 grains, even with a modern centershot recurve, I cannot even hit once unless luck.
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Hey Chris (BlackHawk) was this post highjacked........????? :) ;)
Dbar
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I think blackhawk's point (and I'm just guessing here) is: ALL else being equal (archer's skill, matched arrows, nock point, draw weight, tiller, blah, blah, blah) longer bows are more accurate and easier to shoot well than shorter bows. I agree.
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Bingo adb....I say build a bow as long as you can to suit your draw length,draw weight,and its intended uses...and not the other way around of building a bow as short as you possibly can for your specs.....when a well placed arrow is the name of the game a longer bow will be more forgiving....and lord knows when the pressures on its already tough enough to execute a well placed shot...and the recipient of our arrows deserves our very best efforts in placing that shot and deserve the respect...it just gives you a better chance at success IMO
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AHHHHH Grasshopper......................
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I think blackhawk's point (and I'm just guessing here) is: ALL else being equal (archer's skill, matched arrows, nock point, draw weight, tiller, blah, blah, blah) longer bows are more accurate and easier to shoot well than shorter bows. I agree.
I agree but suck with both. So short is how I go.
I want to see squirrel slinger group 6" @ 40 yards >:D
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"Before Blackhawk"
My shortbow comment was purely tongue in cheek and was really no more belittling than the thread title.
How is the thread title belittling? Controversial maybe... but certainly not insulting or belittling. Definitely not personally insulting to anyone... not me, anyway.
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you guys are to funny
chuck
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exactly adb .....+1 Blackhawk..............
DBar
Exactly
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What about crossbows? Does a crossbow with a longer bow produce more accurate shots than one with a shorter bow? Makes me think that the whole "long bow is easier to be accurate with" is a bunch of hooey. >:D
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Jack ...I think your off the subject just a bit.. ::) :) ;)
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Hmmm. OK. Should I be talking about how much better longbows look? I think I might agree with that.
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What about crossbows? Does a crossbow with a longer bow produce more accurate shots than one with a shorter bow? Makes me think that the whole "long bow is easier to be accurate with" is a bunch of hooey. >:D
Hmmm. Funny you should mention it. Food for thought. The most accurate medieval replica xbow I made had a 40" rawhide backed yew self prod. I normally use a 26" steel prod. The longer prod was quieter and more accurate. There is a youtube vid I posted on this forum if you wanna check it out.
But... this is off topic a bit. ;D
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It's not off topic at all. Bows are bows. If you can show that longer limbs produce more accurate shots with your crossbows, that would be very compelling evidence. IMHO.
(yep, I've seen your vids :) )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mApF6JEN6z8
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Perhaps you need to look at a broader picture of what the term "drooling" is used for before passing judgement on the thread title.
Of course BH wasn't likely to be using it in the least flattering terms, but it's still open for interpretation.
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My thoughts ....Exactly ....Patm
DBar
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Now that is funny Patrick! ;D ;D ;D
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I live right down the hill from the Yurok and Hoopa tribes. These guys fed their families for thousands of years with bows not much longer than my arrows. And surrounded by the nicest 68" Yew staves you can imagine. Wonder why they never tried building longer ones? Maybe they weren't very creative >:D >:D. LOL.
Gabe
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I like all bows, short, long, medium, straight, recurved, horn, sinew, backed, unbacked, bendy handle, stiff handle, D-bows, leverbows etc....even bows with wheels fascinate me:-)
Cheers
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I like all bows, short, long, medium, straight, recurved, horn, sinew, backed, unbacked, bendy handle, stiff handle, D-bows, leverbows etc....even bows with wheels fascinate me:-)
Cheers
I agree shrink a bow throw some wheels on it and BAM accuracy is improved mine is 32 inches and does quite well pasT 20 yards >:D Pot stirred >:D
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Man this is still going ;) :o Now lets get back to the tree stand thing. ;) :) :)
And yes Chris you are a pot stirrer,or some kind of stirrer anyway. ;) :)Could use another word but it's Christmas and I am trying to play nice. :)
Pappy
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Love it !
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I'm pretty sure that anyone who uses a bow less than 86" long just doesn't know what they're doing and should leave the shooting to the real pro's. 8)
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You guys are still comparing the length of your.... bows? :D Wow. Great thread.
Just to keep this seemingly never ending debate alive, who on here has had much success seated in a ground blind with a 72" bow? I can't shoot well canted that far. That is why I shoot with different lengths, depending on how I am hunting. And for all of you spot and stalk types out west, please know that your methods don't work in our palmetto swamps down here. You are pretty much confined to hunting in some type of stand - if you want any meat. Okay, that's all I've got. Keep it going! >:D
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Coolest short bow ever? The little tiny round cross section probably 20# draw San bushmen bows from the Kalahari desert that shoot unfletched arrows with bone needle tips that are poisoned with a hemotoxin from something like tree sap and beetle larvae...or something! ;D
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OK - So an 84+ inch Poplar Bow vs. a 51 inch Osage bow. Shot at 20 yards. ...with properly spined and sized arrows. Which is the better bow? ...and therefore the king of bow woods?
OneBow
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You know there is one "perfect length bow"...it will fall just between too long and too short. I just can not remember what that length is right now. Someone on here posted it once, who was it?
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The bottom line is: SHOOT WHAT YOU SHOOT BEST!!!! 8) (I like bows between 62-64")
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Id never shoot then Cody, I don't shoot anything good!
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What is long and what is short?
Personally i think a bow is short when i cant shoot it from a comfortable stance (drawlenght under 27" )
That makes my accuracy and consistancy suffer most.
But i still shoot better with with a longer bow with some mass in the hand and b.t.w that is exactly what a wheeliebow does,
get you a long nice draw with a lot of mass in the hand.
just my 2c Hilarious thread btw ;D