Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Mafort on June 18, 2018, 08:04:47 pm
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so im making some new arrows but im having some issues deciding which kind of head to use. i read somewhere that a 2 blade broadhead was better at making an entry but a three bladed broadhead makes a bigger entry hole and therefore a better blood trail to follow. i need some help. which one do you use and why?
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I use a razor sharp 2 blade for maximum penetration. Single bevel works great. If you hit them where it counts the blood trail will be short and easy to follow.
(https://i.imgur.com/prah3SG.jpg?1)
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I agree with Clint. I have used Wenzel Woodsman, a 3 blade but never taken a deer with one. It's a narrow 3:1 broadhead.
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Reason i ask is because im looking at getting the bodkin 3 blade broadheads from 3 riversarchery.
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That picture is from a Zwickey - Cliff Zwickey 2 blade. 3rivers carry them. I had great blood trails with them. I could see red spray coming out as both deer ran off. I will be using them again this fall. I used 3 blade points out of modern equipment when penetration wasn't a concern.
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Not sure if I asked this on another thread, but what is the best way to sharpen to the razor edge. I have a Lansky set up, and a bunch of stones, files, and hones? Don't have a slow grinder yet.
Hawkdancer
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I sharpened mine with the Lanskey kit
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The Bodkins should work just fine. You don't need three blades as long as you put it between the ribs and through the lungs.
I use the Lansky Broadhead Sharpener from Amazon for $9 and my daughter uses it on her Muzzy Trocars.
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OSage,, Rob,
Do you use the 17 or the 20 degree bevel?
Hawkdancer
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I use whatever angle matches the edge bevel closest.
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That picture is from a Zwickey - Cliff Zwickey 2 blade. 3rivers carry them. I had great blood trails with them. I could see red spray coming out as both deer ran off. I will be using them again this fall. I used 3 blade points out of modern equipment when penetration wasn't a concern.
i saw those and they looked awesome however kentucky regs wont let me use barbed points like that for hunting.
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Have you checked the regulations lately? They used to be illegal in Indiana and some other states. Since the mechanical broadheads came out a lot of states have removed the barbed restriction. That's why Zwickey reintroduced the Cliff Zwickey point. I know they are legal in Michigan and Indiana now. I'm not sure about Kentucky.
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hmmm i guess they changed it. i looked it up and it just says they cant be chemically treated and must be 7/8 wide.
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The lansky is a 22.5 angle, but I don't think they angle is that important. Its a broad head penetrating at 130FPS or faster by the time it gets to the deer and not a knife.
A long sloping blade like the Bod-Kin will cut better than the Trocar chisel points my daughter uses on her compound with a 45 degree angle of attack and they kill and bleed out just fine. Worryign abut the angle of the grind is overkill, IMO. Traditional guys have been stropping with files for a ragged serrated edge for years and it kills just fine because of the speed of the entry, but you wouldn't want to butcher with it. ;D
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Clint,
Love that kind of blood trail, no doubt you found that deer...I used Zwicky Eskimo for years...Love the 2 blade and more importantly the "cut on contact tip"...The cut on contact point penetrates much easier than a chisel point...
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I use a 2 bladed 160 ace sharpened with a file to a wire edge, no problems, as has been said here and many times before, shot placement is the key. Most any sharp broad head that flies well will do fine. I have used 2/3/4 bladed heads all with good success , I just like the Ace because it is easy to sharpen and keep sharp and flies well. :)
Pappy
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so what i should do is find a point that flies well with my bow? i plan on using my ELB for hunting this season so i made the assumption the bodkin three blades would fly well.
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Practice! Practice! Practice! And evaluate every shot! Also, have your broad heads razor sharp, be ready for Murphy's Law, which is governed by Mc Connell's Theorm - Murphy is an optimist! I am the least qualified as a bowhunter, but you fight like you train, and hunt like you practice. As GunDoc and others say, Shot placement fills the pot! As an HE instructor, I teach shot placement and practice with your hunting equipment until you are proficient! The kill zone on deer is about 8" +/-! Regardless of weapon or range.
Hawkdancer
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The same and more attention should be made to how well the shaft flies.A person wants it leaving like a dart just seeing the back end of the shaft at a 20 yard shot.This helps penetration as well.