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Title: Red Oak believer
Post by: sulphur on November 28, 2009, 10:32:59 am
after the talk about red oak a few days ago i felt the urge to build another one.  I do believe that most people start out on red oak because it is easily attained.  however, since i started making them 2" wide the wood has really impressed me.  This is the third one i have made like this, i gave the first two away.  I may keep this one for myself.  66" ntn  53# @ 28"  two inches wide at the fades tapering to just under .5" nocks.  walnut and paduk handle lams and paduk tips.  i still need to make a new string, but after 50 shots yesturday its only take about an 1" of string follow.
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Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: youngbowyer33 on November 28, 2009, 10:53:48 am
thats a great looking bow,what about a full draw photo?
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: sulphur on November 28, 2009, 11:17:36 am
here ya go.  please excuse the pajama's.  i just got back from the woods.  if its still early i get comfortable.  this is almost full draw.  my wife clicked early.
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Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Innocente on November 28, 2009, 11:21:17 am
wow man. that handle's so beautiful i wouldn't dare put a leather grip on it. gorgeous work.
if you got the time, can we see a pic of the front of it? i wanna see the taper you used.

also: what was your source wood? 1"x3"?
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: sulphur on November 28, 2009, 11:29:31 am
innocente, its pretty simple.  I draw a line 2.5 past the end of the riser from there i draw a straight line to 1/4" from the center line at the tip. i do this for both side and for both limbs.  after i cut it out and clean up the cut with block plane or rasp is pretty much a straight taper from the fades to the tips.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: sulphur on November 28, 2009, 11:51:05 am
innocente, yes this was a 1x3 six foot long.  in reality its a .75" x 2.5" x 72".
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 28, 2009, 12:29:07 pm
Very nice bow. I like red oak too. :) Jawge
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: gmc on November 28, 2009, 01:31:38 pm
Excellent work!
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: gmc on November 28, 2009, 01:32:53 pm
O yeah, I'm a believer too.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: NTProf on November 28, 2009, 02:35:32 pm
I still consider myself a novice, but my absolute best bows come from red oak and maple boards of the same design you mentioned.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: radius on November 28, 2009, 02:39:00 pm
nice arc, sulphur
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Okie on November 28, 2009, 05:56:09 pm
Great looking bow. Love that Paduak.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Wulamoc on November 28, 2009, 07:00:41 pm
Very nice!  I've been doing the 1 1/2" wide and have broken the last three I've started.  I finally figured out my problem.  I like your 2" wide idea!  Thanks.  Great looking weapon! ;)
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Grunt on November 28, 2009, 07:14:32 pm
Red oak is good. Nice work.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Lombard on November 28, 2009, 07:17:00 pm
The motion has passed. Red oak is a fine wood for the novice to expert bowyer. I had ignored Red Oak for a long time, that is until I found Jawge's site. I have made five of them this year, and they took less set than three of my White Ash bows.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: radius on November 28, 2009, 08:37:47 pm
oh all right all right

i admit:  i also made a really sweet red oak bow once:  very short, recurved, strong.

coming up
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Denham Archer on November 28, 2009, 09:28:20 pm
So far I've made bows from Red Oak, Hickory, Maple, and White Oak.  Several bows from each.  I like Red Oak the best.  Dressed up with the right touches, like yours, Red Oak is fantastic. 
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: RyanY on November 29, 2009, 01:27:34 am
I started with red oak. I think about going to it from time to time but I really don't want to use the 1.5" pieces but I don't have a table saw to rip the wider ones.  :( Beautiful bow though. There's just something about a red oak bow.  :)
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: sulphur on November 29, 2009, 09:13:38 am
ryoon  the boards are acutally 2.5 wide  (1x3 )  you don't have to rip them to 2" if you don't want.  a 2.5" wide pyramid bow is almost tillered after you cut it out.  you could also make it a few inchers shorter, say 64" ntn.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 29, 2009, 10:11:40 am
That's it, radius. For your penance you'll have to listen to "I'm a Believer" by the Monkeys at least 3 times. :) Jawge
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: sailordad on November 29, 2009, 10:31:45 am
WOW radius
you willactualy admit to making a bow from an "inferior wood" such as red oak
with too much yew,you actually made a bow from red oak
unbelievable ;)
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: OldBow on November 29, 2009, 12:24:11 pm
Red oak makes great bows and is readily available. Got your fine weapon all bookmarked for Nov Self BOM fun.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Josh on December 02, 2009, 04:31:33 pm
nice bow sulfur, I too have started making them 1.75-2" wide and hav had better bows with less string follow than the 1.5 inch monstrosities  I started out with.  Red oak is a great all around wood.  Easy to carve and easy on the tools too.  :)  -josh
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: Badger on December 02, 2009, 04:41:04 pm
  Red oak is no better or worse than other popular bow woods. I think because it is common and easy to get it might be overlooked very often. Making them wide enough to take the strain is the key as was noted above. I have done extensive testing with all the woods we make bows out of and can honestly say that there is no clear cut winner in performance when normal moisture levels are used. Some woods can tolerate lower moisture levels such as hickory and hornbeam and will excel when extra dry. If I am going for performance I tend to prefer hard maple boards from the lumber yard. I seem to average a touch better with it.
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: NTProf on December 02, 2009, 05:34:07 pm
I do not want to hijack this thread from red oak to maple, but I had a question for Badger. How do you do your maple board bows? Dimensions, tillering, etc. I am into maple board bows right now (along with red oak).
Title: Re: Red Oak believer
Post by: brownhillboy on December 02, 2009, 06:21:56 pm
Nice looking bow, I think I'd keep it too!