Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Pat B on October 30, 2015, 12:36:37 pm
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Who would be in favor of an ABO(or whatever you want to call it) Childs Board? Lets hear what you guys think.
FYI, if you don't know, a childs board is a separate sub-topic board like "flight bows" is to "Bows".
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second
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but my thought is that because we don't know enough about Abo to classify one or another tool or technique it is kinda pointless.
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Joe, the knappers seem to know the difference and rules can be set at the beginning sort of like James Parker did for the "horn Bows" thread.
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It's probably a good idea from an organizational standpoint, it's much easier for users to search topics of interest when there are specific forums. I know other forums have similar 'child boards'.
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I'm all for a separate child board Pat. Josh
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It's probably a good idea from an organizational standpoint, it's much easier for users to search topics of interest when there are specific forums. I know other forums have similar 'child boards'.
Second
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I'm in for it. I want to learn all I can about it.
Dog
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I think it would be a good idea Pat.
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I have often thought there needs to be two boards. I don't particularly like the term ABO even though I know it is widely accepted in the flint knapping community. Tough to come up with two names that wouldn't spark a big debate. But I do like Natural Flintnapping in place of ABO. But regardless, I do think two different boards is a good idea.
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It's probably a good idea from an organizational standpoint, it's much easier for users to search topics of interest when there are specific forums. I know other forums have similar 'child boards'.
Second
^^ [thumbs up]
here's a suggestion (i know it's off-topic):
on another forum i mod for, if someone's posts go off-topic we delete said posts to keep the thread clean and on track.
sure, it's more work for the moderators, but it supports the intent of original author/s and helps the thread succeed as an information source.
a simple disclaimer is put on the first post of the thread: Off-topic posts will be deleted.
we've found that having the disclaimer alone is an effective deterrent.
if someone chooses to waste their time typing something that will be deleted, that's entirely up to them. also, the author of the thread will have to help control the content as well, e.g., notifying a moderator when a post needs to be deleted. when the discussion comes to a conclusion, the thread can be locked so that no one has to moderate it.
at least the original author/s and participants efforts will not be wasted.
i understand that the mods cannot provide this service to every single thread that is started on PA, but there are some threads that need to stay alive for the continued health of this forum as a whole.
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I don't frequent the thread enough to keep up. A few other Mods do but we all have a lot to look over each day...and it is secondary to what we do in our regular lives. We try to keep everyone in line(like herding cats) and do what we have to when we have to. ;)
Looks like a positive reply so far on this childs board matter. Don't know what we'll call it but we will consider everyone's opinions.
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Great idea :)
It's a shame a more adult tag couldn't be attached :laugh:
Welcome back Iowa :)
Zuma
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Suggestions are always appreciated.
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I like the idea but why does it have to be a child's board. Just make it another Forum or call it a sub- forum. The very term child's is confusing and I think makes it sound less than or secondary to the other.
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I like the idea but why does it have to be a child's board. Just make it another Forum or call it a sub- forum. The very term child's is confusing and I think makes it sound less than or secondary to the other.
"child" will not be in the title of the board, this is only a technical term for the hierarchical placement on the web forum.
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Its always been called a childs board. I don't know why...but I'm not offended by it. Its only a website. ;)
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Don't know why anyone cares about being called a child all we do it play with sticks and rocks
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Not offended just never heard the term before coming here. Confused me the first time I saw it cause I could
Not find any children in the photo boards.
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I was confused by the child term myself. After I looked at the Bow forum, I understood what it meant though.
If I might offer another suggestion for what to call it (and I think this is PC, if not throw a rock at me)... but as a tribute to our forefathers, could it be called "Native FlintKnapping." The qualifier would be knapping using tools that were available to native Americans. Just a thought.
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Isn't the pretty mucg accepted term abo no use reinventing the wheel
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Yes, please.
Keith
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Not to be difficult but isnt the forum "flintknapping"...pretty general term....if you move ABO Knapping to another area will that mean that copper knapping techniques are only discussed in the "Flintknapping" forum? I realize some issues developed recently while discussing ABO techniques but I think we have all learned something and can continue under one title "Flintknapping". I for one enjoy all the different techniques and lessons given..
But if you want the Childs Board I am good with that also!
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I prefer one "Flintknapping Forum" to me if you segregate "Abo" into a childs board, what happens when a discussion about raw vs cooked material gets a little heated? To me the solution is keeping posts on topic with the original intent of the poster. Any grave deviation from the original topic/intent should be steered back towards that purpose.
I view this site as a "recreational" type forum, sure if this was purely academic then having a separate location for separate techniques/tools could be warranted.
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Separating the two doesn't mean that you are eliminated from one or the other. You will be accepted at either or both. We are just trying to show the difference between the two techniques...and its not gonna be just about North American knapping.
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That's how they do it at Paleoplanet.
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Honestly, I liked the way it was. I enjoyed looking at everything together. If folks want to separate it , well....... I guess that's the way it will be. Knap On my compadres!!
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Put me in the column that doesn't see the need and in fact feel that this might lead to more division among us. A few ruffled feathers now and then is mostly caused by a small number of folks. I prefer to not bow to the PC contingent among us just to keep a few people happy.
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Amen
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Stringman has it right. Work thru it.
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Pretty interesting. Glad to see folks posting. :)
How would it work if folks that want to teach
one method or the other in a strict sense--
Then couldn't those threads be posted in
Tutorials (with inter action with members)?
Not sure it that section would be to remote
for new folks to find? No real changes?
In other words things here stay the same.
Discussion on any methods but not lengthy
one sided teaching threads.
A thread could remind folks here of a abo or
a copper tutorial??
Also we could vote??
Zuma
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We do live in a Republic, & I take no issue with members voting on a solution . It could rule out a change because of that dang ole PC issue!
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I would like to see it remain as it is. We are all knappers.
Neal
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I'd be happy with the new child board, but I'm happy like it is too.
I think the term ABO should stay.
Changing it would be like saying you aint flintknapping if you're knapping obsidian because that aint flint. sort of.
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Not sure there is a need but I'm cool with whatever.
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I don't post in here much, but I'm not a fan of sub forums, and I wasn't too thrilled when the flight bows and horn bows were separated. That's why I like this board more than the other ones.
Just my 2 cents
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I'm only an occasional knapper and my knapping is geared primarily towards function. As such I really don't care one way or another, although one way of looking at it would be that all of Ben's posts would go in there. I will create a child board (sub-forum) if that is what most of you want. As such I think a poll is necessary.
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I'm only an occasional knapper and my knapping is geared primarily towards function. As such I really don't care one way or another, although one way of looking at it would be that all of Ben's posts would go in there. I will create a child board (sub-forum) if that is what most of you want. As such I think a poll is necessary.
Did you do a pole during the night?
I am pretty sure I see an Abo board already.
Maybe I better check.
I did a quick tally of replies on this thread and I think there
are 21 yes 5 no and 5 undecided.
Zuma
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I'm only an occasional knapper and my knapping is geared primarily towards function. As such I really don't care one way or another, although one way of looking at it would be that all of Ben's posts would go in there. I will create a child board (sub-forum) if that is what most of you want. As such I think a poll is necessary.
Did you do a pole during the night?
I am pretty sure I see an Abo board already.
Maybe I better check.
I did a quick tally of replies on this thread and I think there
are 21 yes 5 no and 5 undecided.
Zuma
LOL I see now, I opened the board and It IS the poll.
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I guess I may as well throw my .02 worth in. I think we should work thru some of our problems like some one else said, I hate to see us become divided, enough said. Bob
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Creating child boards is not a problem. Maybe thought should be given about creating a sub-forum as a read only forum for threads of note, such as Towers post on thinning with pressure that I moved to the Archive Library, and some of the pinned topics as well as others