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Title: Life list Find (Pics Added)
Post by: NTD on May 06, 2010, 02:38:53 am
Went out road crusing for snakes tonight.  Saw a good amount of snakes.  2 live Western Diamondbacks, 2 dead.  3 Longnoses (alive) 1 Dead Lyre snake, 1 live gopher and 2 dead.  And the life list find....an Arizona Coral Snake. ;D ;D Alive!!  Probably about 16-18 inches and PERTY!!!  Will post pics tomorrow.  I know for some of you guys it aint much but it sure got my blood pumping!!!
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: El Destructo on May 06, 2010, 02:45:58 am
did Ya keep the Coral Snake......... ???
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: NTD on May 06, 2010, 02:56:38 am
I didn't take my camera...so I'm keeping it overnight so I can take some pictures and then it's going back where I found it tommorow.  If they didn't have such a specialized diet I'd be tempted to keep it.
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: recurve shooter on May 06, 2010, 10:19:00 am
cool! all we got is cotton mouths lol.  ;D
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: Josh on May 06, 2010, 11:01:30 am
That's awesome Nate.  Great find!  All I find in the roads down here are chicken snakes and copperheads...  :(
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: Lombard on May 06, 2010, 11:09:14 am
Josh, if you have any friends that are loggers, you might try to get in the woods when they are harvesting. It stirs up the snakes. I have gone several times and always see snakes; when it is warm out anyway. Almost had a dead Timber Rattler, that got caught by the skidder chains. It tore it up badly, so it was unusable for bows.
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: NTD on May 06, 2010, 11:12:00 am
Recurve, You sure do have more than Cotton Mouths down there!!! You've got quite a few species in your neck of the woods.  Josh, I WISH we had copperheads.  Maybe someday we can do a trade for some.
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: El Destructo on May 06, 2010, 11:22:48 am
That's awesome Nate.  Great find!  All I find in the roads down here are chicken snakes and copperheads...  :(

Ain't nothing wrong with either of them...both will back a Bow nicely...
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: recurve shooter on May 06, 2010, 12:52:24 pm
yeah there are a few different species, but the cotton mouths are the easyest to find. i wish i could find a copperhead.
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: HatchA on May 06, 2010, 02:03:53 pm
Only snakes we have here are in the reptile house at the zoo, ever since Saint Pat sent them all slithering away on their bellies... >:(

Interfering old Welsh git!!  ;D
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: stickbender on May 07, 2010, 06:41:04 am

     Come on down here, we have coral snakes, rattle snakes, copper heads, cotton mouths, garter snakes, black snakes, coach whips, puff adders, or leaf nosed snakes, vine snakes, water snakes, rat snakes, red ones, and yellow ones, too, and boas, reticulated pythons, cobras, and probably an assortment of other deadly ones to boot.  :o   Be "VERY "Careful with that Coral snake.  It has a neuro toxin.  Similar to Cobra venom.   Bad stuff.  Don't take much.  Even "baby" poisonous snakes, can kill, or cause serious problems !!  :o

                                                                          Wayne

Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: NTD on May 07, 2010, 11:09:51 am
Thanks Wayne, There has never been a recorded death from an Arizona Coral Snake, only your Eastern Corals have any deaths to their name, and that's few and far between.  According to the local venom docs a bite from an Arizona Coral, doesn't constitute a medical emergency.  I'd be much more worried bout our local scutulatus or atrox ;)
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: stickbender on May 07, 2010, 05:54:43 pm

     NTD send them Wussy corals down here, and let them get properly trained in the art of injection........ ;D ;D
Yeah, we have had a few deaths, mostly kids picking them up.  But like you say few and far between.  They are not as active as the other species, and generally hide during the day, so they are not seen as often as the other snakes, and so there are fewer bites, hence fewer deaths.  We used to have quite a few at our fire station.  Rather large ones also.  About two feet.  They caught one, and put it in a bag, and put it in the freezer, and then "artistically" arranged it in a coiled striking position, and waited till the next morning, when the next shift took over, and they put it in the Med Box, and casually, watched as the next shift's Medic, opened the med box, to do the morning truck checks.  Since he was very scared of snakes, the effect was indeed, more than we had anticipated  ;D :o......as soon as he opened the box up all the way, and saw the snake, he still had the box in his hand, he slung box, snake, and contents all over the bay, and rose up, and quickly backed across the bay and slammed into the engine.  :o  Glad they didn't get a call......but they had a back up box.  ;) Yes we did help him pick up the contents, ;) .......after he calmed down.......and the cussing and threats subsided......Oh, yeah, your tax dollars at work...... 8) ;D ;D

                                                                            Wayne
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: NTD on May 07, 2010, 09:23:31 pm
Great Story Wayne.  Do you guys do quite a bit of the snake removal callls?  The Fire District I live in outside of Tucson, is sick of doing it. 
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: stickbender on May 07, 2010, 09:41:06 pm

     I am retired now, but we did an occasional removal.  Removed a 7 or 8 foot Boa, from a horse stall.  Had some people bring their kid in with a dead water snake, that bit him.  Before it was killed of course...... ;D  The guys in Miami are busy as heck.  They have Venom One, which is a specialized med unit just for snake bites.  They keep a refrigerator full of various types of antivenom.  Including the exotics.   Yeah, it can be a nuisance, but that is what you get the big bucks for........ ;)  They would call Animal Control, and rather than come all the way out to our area, they would just say, to call the FD, or Sherriff's Office.  For some reason, before they cleared the area, and put in a public park, we were always finding Coral Snakes around the outside of the station.  We had a lot of toads, but I don't know if that was a reason or not, but we would lift the pallet up at the edge of the concrete driveway, and there would usually be one under that, or some other item they could crawl under to hide.

                                                                  Wayne
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 08, 2010, 01:09:44 am
Why would you go looking and not take a camera? I want to see pictures of all of them.

85% of snakebites involve alcohol, and snakes don't drink.  ;)
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: NTD on May 08, 2010, 03:49:05 am
I rarely Drink and definitely not when playing with snakes.  Yeah it was a bonehead move leaving the camera at home.  But I also have ulterior motives when snake hunting.  SKINS...lord knows I can't keep up with all your special requests on here.
Title: Re: Life list Find
Post by: NTD on May 08, 2010, 04:10:15 am
Alrighty, the pics are kind of crappy as I'm not a great photographer and the damn snake wouldn't hold still.  My buddy Frank was taking pics too and he got some better ones.  Will post those when he sends them to me.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/017-10.jpg)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/016-6.jpg)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/018-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Life list Find (Pics Added)
Post by: Josh on May 10, 2010, 01:26:29 pm
that's a pretty snake.. Me and my buddy Erik (snakeman)  went looking for roadkill last weekend and we found a live Mole King Snake...  They usually live underground and are very hard to find alive but we found one.  I gues it is also a Life list find.  I will post pics of it later this week.   :)
Title: Re: Life list Find (Pics Added)
Post by: NTD on May 10, 2010, 09:39:16 pm
Very Cool find Josh.  I went out 5 nights in a row this week.  If you count Live and DOR I've found 26 snakes this last week.  Added another life list find too...kind of... ;D A baby sidewinder...only about 10-12 inches long cuter than all hell.  Sorry but baby sidewinders ARE CUTE!!!  Will post pics soon. 
Title: Re: Life list Find (Pics Added)
Post by: mullet on May 10, 2010, 09:53:07 pm
 Cool pictures, Nate. It look's a little different than ours. I was suprised to see they had a Coral snake where I was working in Brazil.
Title: Re: Life list Find (Pics Added)
Post by: stickbender on May 10, 2010, 10:34:06 pm

     Yeah, ours has more of a yellow, instead of the white......


                                             Wayne