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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on May 29, 2013, 02:43:42 am

Title: yew west coast paddle 52/22 (No. 26)
Post by: simson on May 29, 2013, 02:43:42 am
Got a yew (3“ diam., 45“ long) with very wide rings, so semi good bowwood. I decided, to give up my first idea - cutting billets - , but give a west coast paddle a try ...
I cut out the middle section with the sap on, limbs are 3” at the widest part – you can see the sapwood there. Steps: rough shaping paddle, cross section is a very wide oval, steam bending recurves, 2 layers of sinew, painted with a mixture of hide glue and earth pigments.
This bow has a high reflex of 6” and a heavy string tension at brace. 

   
         

specs:
species: yew
length ntn: 43.5”
braceheight: 5¼“
drawlength: 22”
drawweight: 52 lbs
mass: 520 gram total
w/d at handle: 34/15 mm
w/d at fade: 51/14 mm (below fur)
w/d at midlimb:   78/9 mm
w/d at tip:   22/11 mm (below silencer)
stiff parts:   about 1,5” end of limbs
backing: 2 layers sinew
recurves: static, short
tips: self tips with sinew wrapping
handle: buck skin wrapping, otter fur
painting: earth pigments
silencers: otter fur

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Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on May 29, 2013, 02:56:38 am
Well sir I think you've nailed it!  That's one beautiful piece of artwork man, I love the pigment paints, and the tiller of course! 
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Jodocus on May 29, 2013, 03:47:51 am
Sweet! I always like your work, and this one is no exeption! Very, very pretty shortie, outstanding in all aspects. The paint job is lovely.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: danny f on May 29, 2013, 04:07:07 am
that looks great as usual, i wouldnt like to try and string it though lol. those are some big recurves.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: YewArcher on May 29, 2013, 04:42:31 am
Great bow! Do you make your own paints?
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Post by: Pappy on May 29, 2013, 06:15:20 am
WOW,very cool little bow. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: dwardo on May 29, 2013, 06:23:50 am
Cor blimey thats nice.
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Post by: ssgtchad on May 29, 2013, 06:36:48 am
Bow of the month! Great job Simson
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Post by: blackhawk on May 29, 2013, 07:19:57 am
Awesome!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Hrothgar on May 29, 2013, 07:38:35 am
Very nice! That's the way to finish a bow.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: JonW on May 29, 2013, 08:03:18 am
Coolest thing I've seen in awhile. Bow or otherwise.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Badly Bent on May 29, 2013, 08:32:49 am
That little bow is a real beauty Simon, like everything about that one.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: autologus on May 29, 2013, 08:33:42 am
Wow that is truely a beautiful bow, you are definitely a master at your craft.

Grady
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: nathan elliot on May 29, 2013, 08:37:20 am
Outstanding little bow! That is just so nice looking and it would nearly fit in my quiver 8) you are making some really fine looking bows.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Del the cat on May 29, 2013, 08:50:01 am
Man that is gorgeous :)
Del
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Post by: MWirwicki on May 29, 2013, 09:32:21 am
Very nice, Simson.  Love the artwork!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: lesken2011 on May 29, 2013, 09:39:05 am
Nice job, Simson! Sweet bends both ways!!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: hatcha on May 29, 2013, 10:06:33 am
Truly astonishing bow...

Your work is incredible!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: SLIMBOB on May 29, 2013, 10:18:14 am
Very nice Sir!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Buffalogobbler on May 29, 2013, 10:32:34 am
Very Cool, I love the artwork!

Kevin
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Post by: juniper junkie on May 29, 2013, 10:42:54 am
extremely well done, great example of a paddle bow. thanks for sharing.
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Post by: mikekeswick on May 29, 2013, 11:18:23 am
 :)
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Pat B on May 29, 2013, 11:38:34 am
 8)  Very nice little paddle bow with perfect tiller.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Parnell on May 29, 2013, 12:09:48 pm
That's tremendous work!  That really must be something for early tension...as said, the artwork and finish is OUTstanding!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: ErictheViking on May 29, 2013, 12:41:01 pm
Simply stunning! just awesome
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Trapper Rob on May 29, 2013, 02:08:59 pm
Words can't describe how sweet that bow looks.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: simson on May 29, 2013, 03:32:31 pm
Great bow! Do you make your own paints?

Yeah, I use homemade paints
a mixture of stone powder, hide glue and a bit of Soda (makes the paint creamy)


Many thanks to all for your kind words, I really like to play with Indian bows ....
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: bushboy on May 29, 2013, 03:52:30 pm
top shelf,herr simson!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: simson on May 30, 2013, 01:16:55 pm
I made a bad mistake in that post.
The correct braceheight for this bow is 4½" not 5¼", not know how this could happen. While in a hurry with the pics, I obviously crabbed the wrong string so braceheight and reflex have the same amount (6").
Btw. this bow is not that hard to string, because the wide limbs makes it stable. For this bow I use the step through method.
The silencers take away a good amount of the string sound. The early tension is very high. I have done a new drawweight measurement, a pic is added. It shows that the bow has gained drawweight (obviously still sinew curing) and high increase of weight in the first inches.

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Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: mullet on May 30, 2013, 03:27:26 pm
That is cool!
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Post by: Brian Hoffer on May 30, 2013, 06:28:40 pm
beautiful work!
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Post by: loefflerchuck on May 30, 2013, 10:02:21 pm
Perfection!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Dvshunter on May 30, 2013, 10:13:21 pm
That's sweet man. Awesome little bow.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: missilemaster on May 31, 2013, 01:31:52 pm
Boy thats just beautiful! Bet it affects the weather patterns when you shoot it! ;)
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Chadwick on May 31, 2013, 03:12:00 pm
It looks beautiful. Why stop at 22" of draw?
Chadwick
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Post by: k-hat on May 31, 2013, 03:15:55 pm
Wow, that is amazing in every way!  Beautiful doesn't begin to describe it, well done sir!!!
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: rps3 on May 31, 2013, 03:36:46 pm
This is one of those bows I will store in the back of my mind for future inspiration in more ways than one. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Slackbunny on May 31, 2013, 03:55:24 pm
Very very cool. Nobody will be mistaking that for any other bow, that is for sure.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on May 31, 2013, 04:27:03 pm
That is a seriously nice authentic looking bow! I love the way the reflex looks when unstrung. the paint job is great as well.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: IndianGuy on May 31, 2013, 05:53:05 pm
The design and overall look of the bow is spot on, I think the attention you paid to detail is very obvious, for sure a bow to be very proud of.

Eric
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: PeteC on May 31, 2013, 06:05:37 pm
That is a beauty.I like every thing about it. Have you tried shooting it yet? God Bless
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Post by: Christian Soldier on May 31, 2013, 08:49:14 pm
Absolutely beautiful work! How's it shoot?
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: steelslinger on May 31, 2013, 08:55:26 pm
That I one sweet little bow.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Zion on June 01, 2013, 02:13:20 am
That's amazing! When i saw the first pics i had no idea it would be so small. it's cool you could get something that small to shoot well. Looks like a very good bush bow haha.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: burn em up chuck on June 02, 2013, 01:12:53 pm
   very very cool, excellent job.

                       chuck
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: Josh B on June 02, 2013, 01:51:18 pm
That is some kinda awesome!  Excellent work sir!  Josh
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: BowEd on June 02, 2013, 02:35:12 pm
A big WOW is in order first looking at that bow.Had to go to my conversion ruler to see that your handle is app.1 and 3/8" wide.That's a little leaf spring type bow right there.Really like your geometric patterns.Looks museum quality.BTW..How many rings per inch was your yew?Reason I ask is I've got some Irish yew drying here that's 10 to 15 rings per inch.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: simson on June 02, 2013, 04:23:44 pm
That is a beauty.I like every thing about it. Have you tried shooting it yet? God Bless

Yes, I had shot about 500 arrows though it. When on the shooting range with this one the others are always kidding on me, saying this is a kid's bow  --  until I shoot it, then comes a wow!

When i have time, i have to make some matching arrows for this bow. I'm studying Hamm, Mason and others ...
Unfortunately I have about 8 bows on the bench ... so it will take a bit.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: simson on June 02, 2013, 04:27:31 pm
A big WOW is in order first looking at that bow.Had to go to my conversion ruler to see that your handle is app.1 and 3/8" wide.That's a little leaf spring type bow right there.Really like your geometric patterns.Looks museum quality.BTW..How many rings per inch was your yew?Reason I ask is I've got some Irish yew drying here that's 10 to 15 rings per inch.

Just counted: exact the same as yours.
but remember: this is a kinda board cutted out of the middle of the sapling. Most of the limb is therefore kinda rift sawn (hope this is the right word, perhaps sombody can help)
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: BowEd on June 02, 2013, 04:51:18 pm
Yes....You have the back having the crown of your limb and the belly feathers out looking rift sawn correct?Have you mass weighed it?I bet it must feel like a feather in your hands shooting it.Heck of a job.It inspires me to give my yew a try when it gets dried.
Title: Re: yew west coast paddle 52#/22"
Post by: simson on June 02, 2013, 04:56:38 pm
Yes....You have the back having the crown of your limb and the belly feathers out looking rift sawn correct?Have you mass weighed it?I bet it must feel like a feather in your hands shooting it.Heck of a job.It inspires me to give my yew a try when it gets dried.

I see you understand my crude words!
No, I haven't weighed it. But it is light wood.
The bow isn't that light, because of the heavy sinew. Mass is listed above in grams, don't know how much it isin oz.

Good luck on your project!