Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: mullet on October 21, 2008, 07:18:29 pm
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Here's three, little points I've mounted on for shafts. Like I said in another thread, that after reading that informative article Billy wrote I wanted to try some on hogs. These points are mounted on Hard Maple shafts, I wanted weight, as much as I could get with these tiney points. They came out, after sanding around 95 grns. Mounted in the cane arrow the total was 550grn.
I shot a 100 grn field point on this arrow to see how it would fly and it was straight and fast out of my 60# Osage. I will be going for shots like I had with my pistol the last time I went to that ranch. They were about 8 to 10 feet.
If I shoot and recover one I'll try my hand at being a writer. Oh, almost forgot, that , Fine, cane arrow was made by Steve Parker (hillbilly).
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I like that set up Eddie. Maybe the boo shaft will come out and leave the forshaft in. That will leave the hole open to bleed while the point and forshaft stay in to cause more damage. :) Justin
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That's what it is supposed to do Justin. The Boar hog Chris Cade killed was shot with the same set up. The foreshaft shot out of the socket and cut the heart in half. But it was a Grizzly point I think. I've used foreshafts like this before with field points on targets. When the cane comes into contact with the target the foreshaft is like somebody going through the windshield.
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sweet!!!
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Nice work my man!!
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Great looking points and arrow. It just strikes me as logical that a smaller, narrower point would penetrate deeper. If you were stabbing someone with a stilletto knife wouldn''t it penetrate more easily than a shovel. This is a large exaggeration , but I'm sure you all get the point . (Pun intended)
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Nice set up. The two Parker combo should be killer! 8) Pat
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Very nice
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Yep! Thats why I have to glue mine in for target points!
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Thanks guys, and, if you can't tell got the garden planted two weeks ago also.
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Nice set up Eddie. Can't wait to see the results. They look deadly and would hate to get hit with one of those. Garden??? Everything is just starting to freeze up here and getting in the low 20s and teens this week. Should be able to plant our garden again in May ::)
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Keenan, It's just getting cool enough so stuff doesn't burn up, here. Planted peas, corn, beans, fall squash and cilantro. Habaneros and Thai peppers, pineapples and collard greens are from last year. And won't be long for the oranges and lemons.
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Looks deadly. I was admiring them collards,all we got available here is canned,(which is everybit as terrible as canned spinich). How many inches from the tip of the point to where the shaft and fore-shaft join ? Frank
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It's pretty close to 6", Frank. I was going to wack the collards down when I got back from Brazil. But they started looking good after I cleaned them up.
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That's a good looking arrow Eddie, and definitely ought to do the job especially at the short distances you're talking about. I kind of liked how my cane arrow behaved with the deer I took this year. It ran past some saplings with the arrow sticking out...instead of breaking off like a cedar shaft typically will, it stayed intact hitting tree's as the deer ran past, causing the broadhead to rip through the inside of the deer causing massive damage. She only ran about 30 yards!
By the way, I've just about got one of the tonkin cane arrows finished all but tapering the tip for a broadhead. It straightened easier then the local river cane I've used partly due to fewer nodes to contend with. I didn't get to spine test or weigh it yet, havn't made it down to the club the last couple of days.
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Looks deadly to me eddie but is it more effective than a Jeep ;) :D
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Looks like it aught to get the job done Eddie. Go stick a pig with it and tell us what happens :).
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Looks good, Edward. I would test it myself, but I'd have to hit the damn pig first, wouldn't I? ;D
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I'm hoping to get invited down to hunt Thanksgiving weekend. Greg I hope you post some pictures of the Tonkin when you get them finished. I plan on making 3 more arrows and 9 more forshafts with points.
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sweet!! did you put a drop of super glue in the joint to hold the foreshaft in place?
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Me? Nah, hot glue! With hunting points you dont want to. Saves the shaft when they detach.
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No Chris, I just stick them in. I beveled it so they fit tight.
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i experimented with just using pressure and found they have to fit really really tight and super straight or the foreshaft will fly off when you shoot the arrow. i'm guessing as the arrow paradoxes it loosens the foreshaft and causes it to prematurely separate. just a drop or two of superglue held the foreshaft in place perfectly and allowed it to separate after the shot. i'd hate to see you stick a boar at eight feet with just the main shaft while the foreshaft sails through the palmettos. that would make for an uncomfortable situation. :o
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Chris, I think that would make for an extremely entertaining situation if we could watch from a good distance away..... >:D ;D
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Maybe a drop of hide glue would work better as it will dissolve when it comes in contact with bodily fluids. Pat
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Chris, I can see how the glue would be necessary. The tip only has to move very slightly to throw the arrow out of alignment and completely off its flight path. It has to be on tact when it enters the pig so the weight of the shaft will help penetration. If it comes apart before penetration stops you only have 140 grains or so and that won't penetrate. What about making it fit tightly into the foreshaft like a 4 inch plug that is attached to the foreshaft. Justin
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steve, i'd like to watch that scenario also. eddie would have to do some high stepping to get out of that. as lucky as eddie is, the main shaft would hit the pig in the eye and drop him like a rock.
justin, from my research and experiments on attaching foreshaft i found the joint should be tapered so it can break away clean. using a square joint and inserting the foreshaft doesn't allow it to break away because it's a stronger joint. hideglue would also work but would be susceptible to the weather. superglue is strong but brittle which allows the joint to snap when a little lateral pressure is applied. like when the animal runs and the mainshaft hits a tree, it will snap at the joint thereby saving the mainshaft. cane, without a foreshaft, is usually strong enough to survive such treatment but i like using foreshafts.
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"will dissolve when it comes in contact with bodily fluids." Pat Superglue ,cyanoacrylate, is biodegradeable ,but will take several weeks depending on the amount used.
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I have'nt tried fore- shafted arrows on big game,but I always thought that just a couple of turns of thin sinew off the fore-shaft and onto the shaft might be good.I have made them that way before,but never used them for big game. Frank
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That makes sense Chris, thanks. Justin
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Them pigs are in trouble. ;)