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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Stixnstones on February 19, 2009, 01:32:28 pm

Title: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 19, 2009, 01:32:28 pm
got some cracks after steaming running off the back and into the side of the limbs. should linen or silk backing be enough?
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: ravenbeak on February 19, 2009, 01:34:34 pm
hmmm.  pics would help
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: DanaM on February 19, 2009, 01:35:13 pm
If their running off the sides they could be trouble
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 19, 2009, 03:28:36 pm
sorry no pics, the cracks arent showing any depth at the edges sooo...
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 19, 2009, 03:37:02 pm
do you think some sort o backing and maybe sinew wrap where the crack meets the edge?
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Pat B on February 19, 2009, 03:57:22 pm
A backing might help. The cracks(probably drying checks) should be following the grain so the grain is running off the limb. That can be trouble.  What kind of wood is it?  Stave or board?
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 19, 2009, 05:01:43 pm
thick grained osage stave
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Pat B on February 19, 2009, 05:20:05 pm
Was it a split out stave or sawn out?
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 19, 2009, 05:23:39 pm
a split
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: dragonman on February 19, 2009, 05:29:16 pm
I once got some cracks after steaming recurves into an oak bow, I just filled them up with white wood glue and they didn't cause any trouble, but they didn't seriously run off the sides
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Pat B on February 19, 2009, 05:31:35 pm
I am surprised the crack is running off the stave. I wish you had pics. Was the crack there before you steamed the stave? Maybe you just didn't see it?
   What I would do is fill the crack with super glue  and clamp it until it dries. Then add a temperary wrap around the tag end of the crack. After the bow is done, put a permanent wrap in the place of the temperary wrap and add another wrap on the other limb for ballance.   Pat
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 19, 2009, 05:36:55 pm
thanks pat thats exactly what i was thinking,and no the crack wasnt there before steaming,i do know the stave is aboot 10 yrs old
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: dismount on February 19, 2009, 06:48:09 pm
I think I know what happened, When you steam a bow you have to start with cold water on a cold bow. Bring both water and wood temp. up at the same time, if you put a cold bow in steaming water, the wood can't handle the sudden temp change and you get god awful cracks. Happened to me.  Dismount
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: El Destructo on February 19, 2009, 07:55:15 pm
                          Since it was so Old....might have been better to use Dry Heat and some Grease
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Pappy on February 20, 2009, 07:04:31 am
Was it old Osage,My rule is never steam Osage if it is over 2/3 years old,I only use dry heat,Anything less than 2  I steam first then dry heat,I also seal it with something usually Polly before steaming.I
have had them before but if they are running off the edge that ant good,I would rap them if there aren't to many or back with Rawhide or sinew. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 20, 2009, 08:51:02 am
heres the rub ,the cracks follow the grain up n down the limbs, the top limb shows some snaking and thats where they run off the edge,once at the edge u can see where they are at, but,they are not raised
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: chriss880 on February 20, 2009, 10:05:53 am
check see if there any slight cracks
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 20, 2009, 10:42:32 am
so far no other cracks nor are the existing cracks getting any worse.i filled em with glue n wrapped em with art. sinew.have had it on the tree this morn, pulling to 24" and holding,keep ur fingers crossed:)
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 23, 2009, 08:02:27 pm
now a splinter has popped up in the middle o the bottom limb, decided to stop screwing around and sinew the back, than wrap sinew where rhe cracks meet the edge
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Badger on February 23, 2009, 08:46:58 pm
Stix, art sinew is useless for repairing bows, it also has wax in it so it wont glue, Take the art sinew off and get some of the real stuff. Just a little practice and you will figure it out, plenty of guys on here to help you through it. Art sinew just looks a bit like sinew but has none of its properties. Steve
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 24, 2009, 07:32:43 pm
i was using the art sinew as a temp wrap,thanx for looking out though.well i got the sinew processed,actually was a little fun,pulling from the center really eliminates waste.its 6:32 and im goin for it , time to start sinewin.
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 25, 2009, 01:01:42 pm
finished sinewing last night at 10:00pm, this is my second attempt at it, this time it worked! gotta go to work so i will work on it later. looks awesome though!
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: El Destructo on February 25, 2009, 09:13:19 pm
                                                                Pictures....We need Pictures......  ;)
Title: Re: cracks after steaming
Post by: Stixnstones on February 26, 2009, 10:43:20 am
i know,i know.at this point i will probably have pics of the finished product.after reading aboot sinew drying me thinks i should let it sit for a few more daze. again sorry aboot the pics:)