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Title: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 05, 2010, 04:01:56 pm
I hope to make more, But not quite so long. This is 66 inches and 50 lbs at 28 inches. It is made of ash With walnut backing and osage handle,wrapped with Bison leather. Shoots very strong and very fast. Denny

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Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: walkabout on September 05, 2010, 04:13:17 pm
very cool, congrats on your first one being successful.the first few of any style bow are really just figuring out the little things that will make or break them, then after that its just a matter of adjusting the important dimensions to what you like.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: adb on September 05, 2010, 04:16:27 pm
Nice tiller... looks proper for a Holmie. Walnut backed ash? Hmmm... I would have done it in exactly the opposite combo. Ash is tension strong, and makes a good backing. Walnut? Don't know. I hope it holds up for you.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 05, 2010, 04:20:27 pm
more pics of my moley

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Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 05, 2010, 04:21:54 pm
Holy crap ,I am seeing double..lol sorry denny
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: walkabout on September 05, 2010, 04:22:12 pm
plainsawn walnut(i believe black) is actually quite strong in tension. if you get ahold of an 1/8" strip it will bend pretty far before it breaks.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: hammertime on September 05, 2010, 04:46:13 pm
Nice lookin bow denny never tried walnut as a backing might open up some possabilities also like the osage in the handle Hammertime
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 05, 2010, 05:11:43 pm
Thanks Hammer, here is another pic. Denny
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: Steve Milbocker on September 05, 2010, 08:45:02 pm
Very nice Denny, I definitely want to give one of them a go soon.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: n2huntn on September 05, 2010, 08:50:30 pm
looks good. Is the belly toasted?
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 05, 2010, 11:59:47 pm
Thanks Steve and n2huntn for the words. No the belly is not toasted , the ash is only clear coated. Denny
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: n2huntn on September 06, 2010, 11:47:36 am
beautiful piece, really like the way the grain shows.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: Steve Milbocker on September 06, 2010, 12:02:58 pm
I've read several times that this design hits hard. Do they have quite a lot of shock with the tips as heavy as they are?
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: walkabout on September 06, 2010, 01:05:14 pm
actually when compared to a normal bow layout or design the mollegabet has about the same amount of outer limb mass, if not sometimes less. this is due to the principle of wood- ( 2x thickness= 8x strength 2x width= 2x strength) the bowyers bible series actually shows that a bow designed with an inner working limb and outer narrow nonworking limbs(similar to the molle) is one of the most efficient designs, as it allows the wood to do work where needed, while keeping with dimensions that will allow the wood to not take considerable strain. i believe it was the section with the combined ishi/pyramid bow and some of the other mantra bows, not sure which volume.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: Del the cat on September 06, 2010, 01:09:28 pm
Nice, I like the grain.
I'm working on an Ash flatbow, I'm in two minds how to do the tips 'Meare Heath' style or go narrow and deep for a hint of homie.
Prob' have her finished next week.
Del
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 06, 2010, 04:58:49 pm
Thanks guys for the kind words. The best I can describe the way it shoots is, it has a smooth draw  from beginning to end and does not stack. It has no hand shock and deploys an arrow with distinct authority. I would compare the static tip as a compound wheel, it would seem the tip just follows the draw, but you can really see the determination it has when the tips try to recover. It is a must shoot , to really enjoy the performance. The ash is heart wood of a black ash tree, quarter sawn. It has a smooth grain, which made this bow one of the easy ones to till.I am no expert of moley's , but have searched the books and talked to as many people who have built them, as I could before I made the bow.The P.A. forum was a great help and I thank all that helped . The walnut was glued up with urac 185 and cooked in a bow oven for about an hour . I then spliced a accent strip of ash over the edges of the walnut where they meet at the middle. I also found you need to keep it thin or it will lift off .. The walnut is about 1/8 inch thick and I started out with a board of ash 1 1/8 inch thick ,tapered to 3/8 inch at the ends . Although the tips should be pin knocks for original , I kept them small and put a traditional tapper to them. If you have anymore questions I would be happy to answer. Denny
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: Pappy on September 09, 2010, 01:22:08 pm
Beautiful bow,very well done.Love the grain on Ash. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: mox1968 on September 09, 2010, 03:34:40 pm
liking it a lot denny ,very nice looking bow mate.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: dragonman on September 09, 2010, 04:08:31 pm
very nice looking molley, i made one of these a while back and can confirm that they do shoot really well, the tips are'nt heavier than a 'normal bow, they should be lighter because like you said they are narrower.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: gothmog on September 10, 2010, 12:47:52 pm
Beautiful bow, nice work.  The grain lines are very attractive.  I'm carrying a molle this year as well.
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 12, 2010, 12:58:10 am
Thanks Fellows again for the kind words. Keep building it is a passion now! Denny
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: Josh on September 13, 2010, 11:52:45 am
Very nice Molegabet bow.  Got it bookmarked for Sept BOM contest.   :)
Title: Re: My first Moley
Post by: denny on September 14, 2010, 01:24:04 am
Thanks Josh it would be neat to win. lol It is always nice to receive nice notes, upon completion of a fun project. Got some more for the future. Denny