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Title: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 16, 2019, 03:33:41 pm
Finished this one up today.  Or nearly.  I have undone the handle wrap and I am flipping the bow over.  It just shoots much better flipped.  But, outside of that technicality, it's done.  A few thoughts.  I love Mulberry...If I had but one wish in 2019, that wish would obviously be that all the children of the world would join hands and sing together in the spirit of harmony and peace.  But if I had 2 wishes...yeah the first would be that crap about the kids, but the second wish would be that I had an unlimited supply of sweet Mulberry at my finger tips.  (hat tip Steve Martin).  I loved working with this wood.  I think the comparisons with it being a cousin to Osage are misleading a little.  Much softer than Osage.  The heartwood works more like Hackberry to me.  Except it does work like a dream under the drawknife unlike Hackberry.  Getting the sap wood off was a nightmare, but once underneath it the heartwood will do most any thing you ask it to.  Although somewhat easily dinged if your not careful, it surprised me once I had a string on it.  I was certain it would snap before I got to 27 inches, or at least lose all of its muscle and take a lot of set.  Wrong on both.  It never worked up a sweat getting to full draw and it settled in with 1 7/8 inches of reflex and stayed right there.  It's about 1 inch of reflex when first unstrung and then shortly after it rebounds to 1 7/8 inches.  Had to glue in a handle section as it got to thin right there in the middle. It shoots really sweet (especially since I flipped it over).  The R/D aspect is guess work for me as I don't have a lot of experience with them, so the tiller is more or less what I thought looked right than anything else.  Any comments on that aspect from you R/D guys is welcomed.  Any way, thanks for looking.
The specs....
Texas Mulberry (Red)
67 inches ttp
Reflex/Deflex
About 1 5/8 inches wide at the fades
parallel to mid limb and then tapered to about 1/2 inch at the tips
Black Cherry tip overlays
48 lbs at 27 inches btw.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 16, 2019, 03:34:36 pm
Braced and money shot.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: osage outlaw on June 16, 2019, 03:41:16 pm
That's a very nice looking bow!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 16, 2019, 03:53:30 pm
Thanks Clint.  Glad you checked in.  Very glad you like it!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: burchett.donald on June 16, 2019, 03:55:05 pm
 Bob,
          You got that right, that is "money"...Nice bend, balance and craftsmanship buddy...Excellent finish and tips are beautiful...I mean you got that Hackberry in spades man...
                                                                         Don
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Dvshunter on June 16, 2019, 03:56:53 pm
Nice handle wrap on a nice looking stick!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 16, 2019, 04:14:40 pm
Hey Don.  Thanks!  I am pretty proud of this one.  Not so much the finish work, although it's not bad, I just love this bow.  The sweep of the limbs and the way it shoots.
Thanks Dvshunter.  The handle wrap like this was a first for me.  I do like the way it feels in the hand with it.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: tipi stuff on June 16, 2019, 04:32:54 pm
That’s a good un!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: upstatenybowyer on June 16, 2019, 04:37:37 pm
Very nice indeed! I'll bet she's smooth as silk (you know they couldn't make silk without mulberry trees).  8)
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 16, 2019, 04:39:31 pm
Thanks Curt.  This is that Mulberry we cut on your place 6 and a half years ago.  I know to someone with your advanced age it seems like just yesterday.  ;D

Thanks upstate. 
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Pat B on June 16, 2019, 04:53:19 pm
Very nice mulberry R/D bow, Bob. I'd bet she is a sweet shooter at that length.  :OK
Mulberry is very nice bow wood.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Woodely on June 16, 2019, 05:05:16 pm
I like the length.  Beautiful bow and finish.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: DC on June 16, 2019, 05:14:46 pm
Very nice, I like that one :D
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: bjrogg on June 16, 2019, 05:51:37 pm
Looking good Slimbob. Afraid I haven't gotten very far on that mulberry I stripped the sapwood off of. Kinda hoping the weather straightens out and I don't have time to till winter. Your giving me some serious inspiration though.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 16, 2019, 07:18:43 pm
Thanks Pat. I appreciate your input on this one.
Thanks woodely
Thanks DC.
Thanks bjrogg. Hope you get to plow, but if and when you tackle that Mulberry...mmm,mmm good!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: leonwood on June 17, 2019, 04:37:45 am
Awesome bow, I love the rd shape. Mulberry is one of my favourite bow woods for sure and you did this one proud
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: M2A on June 17, 2019, 05:33:03 am
Real nice Slimbob! Looks like it ought to have some zip to it.
Mike
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 17, 2019, 05:48:17 am
Thanks Leon.  Mulberry quickly moved up near the top for me.  Small sample size with this being my first bow from it, but really like it.
Thanks Mike.  It's definitely got some muscle behind it.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: PaSteve on June 17, 2019, 06:07:24 am
Nice looking bow. Love the color of the tips...the contrast looks great on that mulberry. Also, excellent job on the handle. An all around great job.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: ohma2 on June 17, 2019, 11:03:00 am
 :OK
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: gutpile on June 17, 2019, 11:04:12 am
man... that looks sweet...gut
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Stixnstones on June 17, 2019, 02:03:54 pm
Now that is a sweet lookin rig... love the overlays, and that tiller is spot on. Great work.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: mikebarg on June 17, 2019, 02:54:16 pm
Good job SLIMBOB! I need to keep an eye out for Mulberry.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Marc St Louis on June 17, 2019, 05:10:29 pm
Yes that is a very nice bow
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 17, 2019, 07:26:15 pm
Thanks guys. This was one I enjoyed working on as much as any I have made. Except removing the sap wood. That sucked. But from cutting this one with my buddy Curt, right up to applying the finish, this one was a joy, and somewhat effortless in a lot of ways. The results are just a reflection of that I think.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: H Rhodes on June 17, 2019, 08:13:59 pm
Looks like a sweet shooter to me.  I have been meaning to try mulberry.  Your finishing work is great.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: simson on June 17, 2019, 09:17:00 pm
That's a WOWser!
Excellent work, BoB. Love the profiles, the fd is perfect.
And yep mulberry is great bowwood, I love it too.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Bayou Ben on June 18, 2019, 06:49:40 am
Great work Bob!  Love the profile both unstrung and full draw, money for sure  :OK
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Badger on June 18, 2019, 12:10:21 pm
   That is a real beauty, I love how you deflexed the handle area. Greatjob!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: simk on June 18, 2019, 01:22:40 pm
Hey Bob, seem's you are on a good run  (-S excellent bow you did - she's real beauty!!! How did you deflex the stave in the handle? I checked your build along but didn't find that point...  (-_) Cheers from overseas - Simon
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 18, 2019, 02:21:51 pm
Hey Howard. Good to hear from you. Hope you find Mulberry as pleasing as I do.
Thanks Simon. Your #100 was an inspiration to me and a model.
Ben. Thanks man
Badger. Thanks. I’m proud of this one. It shoots really sweet.
simk. Thanks!  The handle was thin. About an inch deep. Mulberry bends easily I found, so dry heat and a few clamps.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: bassman on June 20, 2019, 03:49:41 am
Well done. nice work.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 20, 2019, 05:33:03 am
Thanks bassman.  Like that little number you have posted.  I really liked that Plains style bow you did earlier this year.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 20, 2019, 06:07:51 am
Very impressive! Jawge
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 21, 2019, 08:20:54 pm
Just a few last minute thank you’s before closing this one out...thanks to PatB for offering his advice on this one throughout. It was very helpful. Thanks to DC. Appreciate your input when I called on you. Thanks to Marc and Simon. I relied on the R/D bows from you both as a model to get this right. Thanks to Curt “tipistuff” for letting...no, helping me cut this from his place. Thanks to everyone who followed me on this one. Appreciate all the input, and encouragement. This one was plain ole fun!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: Sidewinder on June 22, 2019, 09:40:38 am
Beautiful job Bob
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: burchett.donald on June 22, 2019, 07:33:28 pm
  Bob,
          Well deserved my friend...Thanks for posting your work here...Looking forward to that sinew backed Osage rocket launcher man!
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: bradsmith2010 on June 22, 2019, 08:10:04 pm
Congrats,,,beautiful (-S
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 23, 2019, 07:20:09 am
Sidewinder.  Thanks.
bradsmith2010.  Thank you.
Don.  I've done only a bit on the recurve.  Getting the profile even right now. It's close and I will work on it some today.  I have a bit of deer rawhide headed my way to cover the sinew with.  That stave was a mess when I started and it is still womperty  (if that's a word), but It's gonna become a bow I believe.  Not a pretty one, but a shooter.  That's the plan any way.  Working a bit on a new Elm bow as well.  It's been drying for a few months and I think it's ready to floor tiller.  Excited about it.
Title: Re: Mulberry Reflex/Deflex
Post by: backtowood B2W on June 23, 2019, 10:17:12 pm
That's a beauty! Very nice work bob! Thanks for sharing!