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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: BowEd on December 15, 2018, 03:53:44 pm

Title: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BowEd on December 15, 2018, 03:53:44 pm
If primitive skills means home tanning and hand sewing I guess this is it.This is the skunk that refused to take a good hint from us to move on.
Tanned him in a plastic bucket with about 2 to 3 gallons of water/1/2 pound of aluminum sulfate and 1 pound of pickling salt.Moisturized a bit with neats foot oil also after tanning is done.Contact cement glued skunk hide to deer brain tan.Then sewed it up.
I've done many a deer hide years ago with this combo too.Then 1 pound of aluminum sulfate and 2 pounds of pickling salt in at least 10 gallons of water is needed.I did them in a plastic 30 gallon trash can then.It usually takes about a week then.To check penetration of chemical just slice a sliver of hide from the edge of the neck.It'll show ya.
I'll make a carrying strap for it and decide what beadwork if any to do on it.It's size is 7.5" by 9.5".
(https://i.imgur.com/OKMUbEZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uUX6U46.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OZd63XN.jpg)
As with most things to be useful function before form.
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: Outbackbob48 on December 15, 2018, 04:36:47 pm
That's a one of a kind possibles bag, Looks great, not many people ever mess with skunks, I skinned 4 one year :o and had them tanned by Moyles. Skunk are real pretty hides, to bad they are not used much, Beautiful bag Ed Like to see it with the strap. Bob
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: Pat B on December 15, 2018, 05:37:05 pm
Yeah, real nice bag ED. Can you still smell any essence of skunk on the skin?
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Post by: Knoll on December 15, 2018, 06:46:49 pm
Nice, Mr Ed!
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BowEd on December 15, 2018, 07:34:37 pm
It was a small skunk so it was rather thin leather.I had to add other leather to get the sized bag it is too.Large fully matured skunks hats[lined with flannel] and large bags can be made with no additional leather and leather is thicker also.The prime fur is a lot like bear.
I washed it multiple times in dish washing soap before tanning bath and after rinsing it.Even sprayed it a bit with hydrogen peroxide.It stayed in tanning bath for 3 days to tan.After rinsing I hit it with a hair dryer to dry hair then neats foot oil is applied flesh side with a small paint brush.I hit that too with hair dryer to help with oil absorbtion.Then let it set and oil is absorbed good.It took about 3 to 4 hours to dry at room temperature.While drying I work it and stretch it etc.It does'nt smell at all to me.Just the smoked brain tan does though.I use hickory bark smoking my hides.I'll probably 4 way lace braid a strap for it.
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 15, 2018, 09:48:02 pm
Got to admit that hickory smoke smell a lot better than skunk! >:D. That is a nice bag!
Kawkdancer
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: osage outlaw on December 16, 2018, 05:44:06 am
Very nice work Ed.  Skunk hides are an eye catcher. 
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BowEd on December 16, 2018, 06:09:01 am
Thanks fellas.It's best to wait till the animals are furred up good from the winter before tanning them for best looking pelt.
Two that got away.....Ha Ha.These were adults.
(https://i.imgur.com/YpUcMdb.jpg)
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: bjrogg on December 16, 2018, 07:39:27 am
Nice job Ed. I haven't gotten the nerve up to do a skunk yet. Someday though when find the right one. Did you remove the essence first? Did you just avoid hitting glands? Kinda like skinning a mink?
Your a valuable source of knowledge and inspiration. I always enjoy and look back to you tan alongs for information.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BowEd on December 16, 2018, 03:15:28 pm
BJ.....I just skin around those nasty little things.Sharp sharp knife is a must.
A person does'nt need to have these sometimes hard to get pelts without buying them and are rather expensive like lynx,cougar,or otter to make good useful things.Although it's nice to work with those kind of pelts.I've never gotten an attraction to be tanning possum though.Although I've seen a coat made of those once and it was beautiful.
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: bjrogg on December 16, 2018, 08:08:27 pm
I remember my mom having a opossum coat when I was a wee lad. Always thought it was really neat.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BowEd on December 17, 2018, 05:47:24 am
Possum is a rather thin type hide.I've found fleshing them on a beam in a partially frozen state or stiff helps to keep the hair intact good.It's easy to ruin one with hair loss otherwise.
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: Mounter on December 17, 2018, 10:56:32 am
Pretty unique bag, nice job.


I remember my dad telling me back in the late 30’s early 40’s that skunk and opossum brought a buck or 2 apiece. Civit cats brought 2 or 3.. pretty good money for a farm boy back then.
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: backtowood B2W on December 17, 2018, 12:01:55 pm
really beautiful !
I guess you are going for some beadwork. I enjoyed that a lot at your last one.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, hope I can use this once.
b2tw
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: Pappy on December 17, 2018, 02:28:15 pm
Nice Ed, should be handy. :)
 Pappy
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Post by: Danzn Bar on December 17, 2018, 02:59:48 pm
Good looking stuff
DBar
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BrianS on December 18, 2018, 05:34:16 am
Nice work on the bag
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BowEd on December 19, 2018, 07:04:19 am
Thanks fellas...Making all these crafts I learned function over form is a good rule.If it can't handle the use then it's not very useful or just mostly ceremonial.It seems I'm the only one who likes to embroidery bead a little.No matter maybe someone else will give it a try.It can be a little addictive to do too like making bows.My work is'nt museum display quality but gets by for me.
I used cobalt blue and a crow pale blue size no. 12 beads.Rather small but more detail can be made using a smaller bead.Because of the steep angle of design I had to sew it with an in line back stitch method to get a smoother staggered edge.Got em down good and tight though with a half way though leather back out type of stitch.A tough nemo thread is used.It supposed to represent an arrow head.I might add a little more beadwork later.Maybe some small rosettes or something.I like to let the weight of the glass to help hold the flap shut.Works pretty good.
(https://i.imgur.com/4PtdFY1.jpg)
More detailed pic
(https://i.imgur.com/1DEfwUE.jpg)


Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 19, 2018, 10:09:45 am
Nice work on the whole bag, and the beading most definitely is an arrowhead!  Haven't done any real beadwork for a long time, too hard to see the holes in the little beads.  Have to learn how to adjust the fly tying magnifier!. 
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: BowEd on December 19, 2018, 04:51:39 pm
Yep Hawk that eye sight change started for me at about 45 years old.I'm far sighted so I need readers glasses to bead any more.
Finished it up.The rings designate the 4 winds.
(https://i.imgur.com/CGRAF0s.jpg)
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: Outbackbob48 on December 19, 2018, 05:24:11 pm
Real nice Ed, the beads and strap really set it off and I like how they also hold your flap down. Bob
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: bjrogg on December 19, 2018, 07:16:55 pm
That looks great Ed. Just the right amount of head bling.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: skunk highlighted possibles bag
Post by: ohma2 on December 29, 2018, 08:50:17 am
Thars a good lookin bag ED.