Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Trapper Rob on September 26, 2023, 04:53:04 pm
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Who all would be interested in doing the arrow trade this year?
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I'm in. :OK
Can't wait to get started, and seeing what everyone else has to offer. These trades always get folks to step out of the box for their recipient.
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What!, none of the 86 people that have looked at this thread are willing to put themselves out and make 1 arrow for another Arrow Trade, something we have done here on PA for years? (A)
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OK, that's 10 more that have looked without comment or to join in. :-\
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What's the pre-requesits (sp?) to be a part of this? I think it would be cool, but I don't know that my arrows are worthy.
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Aaron your arrow will be fine. Wooden shaft and real feathers. Shaft can be natural or a wood shaft you buy as long as it's not aluminum or anything like that that's man made.
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Aaron, your arrows are good enough and making one for someone else will make them better. :OK
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Thanks guys, I appreciate it. Count me in!
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I'm in!!! Missed last year so I have to make up for it!!
G-Monee :OK
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I'm in! Need some incentive to get back to bows and arrows!
Hawkdancer
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I'm in! Got to get back to the shop and do bows and arrows!
Hawkdancer
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I'll play as long as I've some time to finish...I can make an "arrow" no problem. Making one I trust to shoot at something takes time :-) Paul
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I'll leave this go until next Monday then I'll draw names
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I been laid up for some time now for medical reasons. Might be weeks till i can work a draw knife or swing an axe, let alone draw a bow. Just this weekend was the first time i have been able to do anything in the shop in what seems like forever, so things have made a turn for the better now. I have all the raw materials ready to go for an arrow build. Good reason to get back to doing what I enjoy. I'm in.
Mike
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Okay guys sorry for taking so long here's the list
Send too the person below you the bottom person send to the person on top.
I'll get with Pat as far as the deadline to ship and post it.
Everyone try to be shipped by December 1st
Trapper Rob
Pat B
Aaron 1726
warpath
Hawkdancer
Paul
M2A
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Sounds good :OK
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Cool. I'm ready to get going on it. :OK
Rob, I won't be shooting the arrow I receive so make the best arrow you can but don't worry about a specific spine.
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Sounds good Pat
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Will everyone sign and date their arrows.
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Date and sign, got it. I have some fine tipped paint pens that seem to work well under finishes.
I started on a new shoot shaft right after signing up so its good and straight now as well as having a good taper. Knapped out a good point( I feel) but may try and again on that. Hope to be complete or almost complete in a week or so. I may yet have your address Rob, if not i will Pm you when complete. Regardless i will let you know when i send.
Mike
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Sounds good Mike
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I have a couple "almost" arrows in the shop. I hope today to shoot a couple to confirm they shoot well before I put a point on it. Gotta finish one of the many points I have started. I believe I can ship both the arrow and the knapped point I owe the arrow head trade before middle of November. Paul
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How's everyone coming along?
I've got my point about done then I need to get the shaft scraped and straighten it
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My arrow is ready for fletching. Now to decide which style of fletching to use.
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Got mine almost done, probably will be ready to ship in the next week or so.
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I got slowed down with knapping a point I was happy with but I now have one I'm pretty pleased with and have a good dry fit to the shaft now. So finish, fletch and glue yet.
Mike
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Mine is done except for signing, dating and shipping. :OK
Aaron, I'll need your mailing address. You can PM or email it to me.
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I am almost done as well...test shot with rifle casing blunt point and it flew where I told it to. I have a point ready to mount. I hope to be able to package if not this weekend then early next week. I'll need an address.
Paul
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Mine is done except for signing, dating and shipping. :OK
Aaron, I'll need your mailing address. You can PM or email it to me.
Thanks Pat, PM sent. Can't wait!
Warpath, I've got yours done to, just need the address.
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I had a little set back this morning while preparing to package my trade arrow. I'm trying to make my shipping container 30"(for USPS more than 30" add $15 to ship total) and my arrow with the point is 31". I'll remove the head and make the arrow just less that 30" including the point. This shouldn't take me more that a few days to rectify this dilemma. :-[ :OK
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Problem solved! :OK
Will be mailing soon.
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Arrow went in the mail this morning. Expected delivery date Monday, 11/13
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So how do you all.box your arrows for shipping? Working on boxing my arrow and beginning to work it won't get to destination in one piece. Suggestions?
Thanks, Paul
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Paul, I used a 2" cardboard tube with foam inside to support the arrow head and nock and thin wood circles at each end taped heavily on. Be sure to contain any arrow point securely so the arrow won't push out from either end.
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Thanks Pat. I don't have a shipping tube laying around. I did find some of that black foam pipe insulation. I was able to use that to protect the arrow. I think it'll be okay as long as it doesn't get caught in a door or something....Will ship Mon or Tues.
Paul
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I'll post pics of Pat's when it gets here if that helps.
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My package is shipped USPS. Expect delivery on thur this week. Paul
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My package from Pat arrived yesterday! Amazing arrow and an extra surprise of 6 additional cane shafts. Below is the explanation that Pat left in the package.
Hill cane arrow w/ eastern 2 fletch Cahokia style. Stone point by Eric Garza. Pitch glue, moose sinew w/ pitch varnish sealer. 6 extra hill cane shafts, one cut to length, somewhat straightened w/ point taper.
He also shared how he cuts for the points and nocks.
Here are a few pics, I'll add some more as well. Many thanks Pat!
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Here's a few more of the point and fletching.
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I am not familiar with this style of 2 fletch, but it's pretty cool. I'm curious about the one side that's cut slightly different? Is the a specific reasoning? Really clean sinew wraps too!
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Good looking arrow you got from Pat Aaron. 2 fletch is a pretty cool style!
I got slowed down on my project with indecision on how to finish it up. All primitive or use modern paints and finishes? Tested out some new ideas on a test shaft, so going to keep to all natural materials. I hate to give a timeline but I'll have the point glued on tomorrow then can have some fun doing something different with this one. Should be all smooth sailing from here.
Mike
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Nothing special about the fletching, Aaron. After I mounted the two fletch I burned the pattern on a feather burner and that's the way it came out. The tails didn't get burned except for the one. It's only cosmetic. If you'd prefer you can cut the 3 tails off to match the other. Sharp scissors will do the trick.
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Ok thanks Pat, I was just curious. I think it turned out really cool, no scissors to be used on this one :) it's already got a spot hanging over my work bench.
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:OK
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speaking of finishing arrows this project taught me I don't have a good system for finishing arrows. Once point and fletching is in place I found it very difficult to get a finish on the shaft in those areas...do most of you put a "finish" on shaft after testing the shaft bare? And then add point and fletching? what is your way getting a finish on without getting it all over fletching etc? I guess nothing wrong with a bare, no finish shaft? Paul
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With my cane arrows I don't use a finish only seal the sinew wraps with pitch varnish. On doweled shafts or hardwood shoot shafts I seal them once I get them straight. I do like to spin shafts on my finger tip to insure the shaft lines up so I sometimes add a point first then seal them. I've used spray satin poly, hand dipped in satin poly or added Tru-Oil as a finish then when that dries add the fletching. Be sure whatever finish you use it is compatible with your fletch adhesive.
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I'm almost finished with my arrow. I really hope they like it. Sorry that I've been absent lately. Just super busy along with the wife and I house shopping.
G-Monee :OK
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Hello Hawkdancer, I just tried sending you a PM w my address for trade but your box is full...looking forward to what you make. Paul
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Waiting a day or so for the sinew to dry so i can seal it and arrow will be ready to send out. Hope to send out before the holiday.
Mike
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Got a package from paulc today. Think its a river cane shaft/turkey wing fletching/and a knapped madison style point all held together with sinew and pitch glue. Great example of a eastern woodlands arrow. Hope to be able to take some pictures tomorrow and get them posted. Thanks Paul!
My arrow is all finished up just need to do the packaging and shipping.
Mike
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It is Mike...the shaft is some kind of landscape/exotic cane that grows striped light/dark green here in Savannah. Pretty sure it is not native but it works. Turkey fletching from a buddy who had some wings/tails that decided he wasn't going to do anything with. Sinew is from my rifle hunting of deer on Fort Stewart and pitch mostly collected on Fort Stewart. It shot really well from my 50lb osage bow, 27-28"ish draw...I hope the shaft stayed straight! I left a couple sister shafts in my garage and they seemed to bow a bit with the humidity :-(
Best, Paul
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Got mine sent out today.
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I cleared some room in the inbox, so I guess I am back on the air! Dealing with a few not so minor challenges, such as Jacie's car dying dead,, and the creeping crud! Should still be able to ship by next week!
Hawkdaner
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Here are some Pics from the arrow I got from paulc. Interesting fletching as the cock feather is shorter, not sure you can see except in the full lenght pic. I might need to test that out sometime. Any thoughts behind that Paul? But its great to have a back story behind pretty much all the materials! Thanks again Paul!
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The shorter fletching is a mix of waste not want not, "this side up" clarity and I wanted to see how it looked/functioned....willing to bet I'm not the first person to try it... :-) Paul
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Paul that's a nice looking arrow
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Thank you! I gotta work on my finish...and actually shoot a deer or hog w one ;-)
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I shipped. Should be to Rob tomorrow.
Mike
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That’s a nice arrow Mike nice point to Paul. I wish I could have gotten in this trade. I always enjoy the arrow trade, but I have been way too busy. Enjoy looking in once in awhile though.
I usually straighten shafts and then spray on a coat of clear satin. Then haft my point. Then I paint my markings on. I like putting on a clear finish before cresting. It helps prevent the paint from bleeding and makes my lines sharper. Also can wipe off if I make a mistake.
Then after my crest dries I lock it under a couple coats of sprayed on clear satin and then fletch and seal sinew.
Bjrogg
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Got a nice two fletch arrow and some shoot shafts from M2A.
Thanks Mike
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Glad to hear it got there Rob. Raw shafts are arrowwood viburnum same as the the arrow. Point is from some of the best quality flint ridge I dug from Nethers a few years ago. 2 feather goose fletching, Same way I have made my hunting arrows, got the idea to round off the the backs of the feathers from a Jack Crafty video and his research into the style. I like to round them as it keeps the feathers clear of my fingers. Really like how it looks and they fly just fine. Had to use some rattle can clear coat on the words because the pitch varnish made the paint marker run. Best I got with this arrow :)
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I'm finally able to get back on this site. My computer needed updating and for some reason wouldn't let me access this page. I received a beautiful arrow from Aaron about 3 weeks ago. It is absolutely beautiful. It will definitely be going on my wall. Hawkdancer, I hope that you received my package. Sorry it took so long. I included some extras to make up for my tardiness. Hopefully you can use them.
G-Monee :OK
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Good deal, glad you like it!
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Who hasn't received their arrow yet
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I don't have a package yet but i get the impression my guy is busy w life...Paul
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getting the package ready to ship at this very moment!! Actually, I have only wild excuses, such as being held hostage by leprechauns and elves at a solstice revelry and being caught in a stampede of mythical beasts!
Hawkdancer
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I got a nice bundle from Warpath, a very near stone tip arrow and makings for a dozen more arrows! Will try to post pictures later this evening!
Hawkdancer
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I shipped!! Shipped!! ETA Friday, Savannah GA!
Hawkdancer
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Thanks Jerry! I bet it's a great package. Paul
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Your package arrived today Jerry. I will get some pics up once I can get them off my phone. Jerry s3nt a nice flu flu blunt, 3 bare shafts-some kind of cane, and 3 nice trade points...very generous Jerry. Thank you!
Paul
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got the pics off my phone....arrow is tipped with spent 357 case.
Thanks Jerry! Paul
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Some really nice arrows everyone.
I’m getting that itch. I just knapped a nice butterscotch flint river point. Have to look over my supply of cain. My favorite was that bundle I got from trapper Rob in the supply trade one year. That was really nice stuff Rob
Nice trade guys
Bjrogg
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Brian I had my shoulder replaced as soon as my shoulder gets better I'll look i might have a few left.