Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: samuraiwarrior on August 19, 2007, 01:39:55 am
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This is a red oak self bow I finished over the course of a few hours. It came from an 11' board which costed about $12. The other half is being made into a bow for my brother. Its 68.5" long overall, 1-3/16" wide at the center and pulls 45 pounds at 29". Sealed with boiled linseed oil and a coat of wax. Specs on bow in India ink. String is 12 strands of dacron b-50. Burned insignia at center marking arrow pass.
It took about 1" of set on one limb and about 1-1/4".
Weighs 15.3 oz.
Quite narrow nocks and outer limbs, I haven't measured them yet. I used the mass calculator at about 15" of tiller to see where I was and it turned out to be nearly spot on.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Samuraiwarrior/My%20Bows%20and%20Arrows/selfbow.jpg?t=1187496698)
I'll get a full draw up within the next few days. Hope you like. I really enjoy shooting it, it is such a nice, smooth draw. And it isn't too wide to bother with the grip.
Some bigger more detailed pics on my photobucket. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Samuraiwarrior/My%20Bows%20and%20Arrows/
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It looks pretty good to me. I agree that it has a nice slender look out to the tips. I cant wait for the full draw pictures. How about an unbraced profile picture too. It appears to have a fairly long stiff handle section, not exactly what I think of when I think D bow. I could be mistaken, but if the mass was a right on at 15". It is probably considerable under mass now, and that would account for some of the set. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, because bows with a little string fallow usually feel sweeter to shoot. But "Steve's mass calculator" is designed to be calculated at full draw. Justin
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It looks pretty good to me. I agree that it has a nice slender look out to the tips. I cant wait for the full draw pictures. How about an unbraced profile picture too. It appears to have a fairly long stiff handle section, not exactly what I think of when I think D bow. I could be mistaken, but if the mass was a right on at 15". It is probably considerable under mass now, and that would account for some of the set. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, because bows with a little string fallow usually feel sweeter to shoot. But "Steve's mass calculator" is designed to be calculated at full draw. Justin
Justin,
I used the mass formula to see if I was close and what kind of draw weight/length I could get out of the piece of wood. It is the right mass at full draw though. Sorry if that was confusing. The calculator puts it at about 15.7 oz. I think it has very little set compared to other bows I have seen posted here and elsewhere.
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You are right, 1 inch is certainly not excessive or unusual set. Especially in a bow drawn to 29". Justin
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Ok, I got my little brother to take some full draw pics. I don't know if I reached the full 29" in the pics but here are some:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Samuraiwarrior/My%20Bows%20and%20Arrows/P8190006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Samuraiwarrior/My%20Bows%20and%20Arrows/P8190027.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Samuraiwarrior/My%20Bows%20and%20Arrows/P8190009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/Samuraiwarrior/My%20Bows%20and%20Arrows/P8190028.jpg)
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You did a very nice job on this red oak bow. ;) A good example for others to follow. 8) Pat
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Thanks for the pics SW. After following along and asking several question to some of the old pros on the board, I'm convinced my first actual attempt at a bow will be a red oak board self bow. Seeing your example makes it a personal quest for me now. I can't wait.
One question: Did you get your board at a large lumber chain, or did you have to get if from a specialty wood store? If a place like Lowe's or Home Depot sells suitable wood, I may get a chance at swinging by tomorrow.
Thanks for the inspiration.
Otoe
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I got it from The Home Depot. Only a handful of boards will work, be very careful with the grain and reject any that seem like they wont' work. I have also got good wood from specialty lumber stores as well, but I only go there when I need something other than red oak.
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Nice lookin bow samurai! Reminds me of one I did almost a year ago out of some kind of oak, tiller looks pretty close - you know this one sets the stage for the next one don't ya?
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Thanks again pat, otoe and cowboy. My next 2 bows are a r/d recurved heat treated sinew backed osage bow and a korean horn bow. I am posting a buildalong at PaleoPlanet.
Cowboy, definitely know what you are talking about :) this stuff is so addicting.
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Very nice bow, love the simple beauty of it. Great job.
Alan
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Years ago , we successfully did a number of red Oak bows , from the HD... Carefully chose only the best boards(straight grain ) flat , quarter sawn ,or bias ring...rejected everything that wasn't perfect ... took alot of looking /sorting ...Suspect bows were backed with cloth (polyester camo net ...I know ,I know , it's not Primitive) or fiber... but worked... ;D
Love those D bows !!! Great job Sam'...!!!!
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Nice. Resembles the bow the Virginian Indian is holding in that classic early seventeenth century illustration..
Dave
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Nice looking bow you have there,congrats. :)
Pappy
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Looks like you hit that one perfect, nice bow and tiller looks good.
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GPW: What does "bias ring" mean?
Thanks
Otoe
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Bias ring orientation is pretty much the same in action as quartersawn, except instead of the rings coming in from the exposed edges in the face cut at a 90 degree angle, ie on the perpendicular, the rings are on an angle - the face still looks the same but the diff is visible on the ends of the piece.
Dave
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Got it guys.... I think. If I understand correctly, from the ends of the board, I want the growth rings to be either at a right angle to the faces of the board (quarter sawn) or at a slight angle to same, (bias ring). What I want to avoid is rings that create an arch or dome shaped pattern when viewed from the ends. Additionally the grain should be straight on the side edges as much as possible. Forgive me but sometimes I have to say things in my own words for it to make sense.
Thanks for the continuing education.
Otoe
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You got the idear Otoe, I would still back it with linen or silk fabric.
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Gotta love a simple D. Half as much work and all the performance of a well crafted American flatbow ;D.
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Impressive bow there SW, have to disagree with half the work tho Kegan.... ;)....Brian
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A fine bow you have made! I like it those bows out of boards :)