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Title: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: ken75 on January 22, 2011, 09:20:03 pm
heres one i finished today . other half of the vertical belly lam that i did a while back. 55 inches tip to tip 48 lbs at 28 . hickory backin with a lil paint.
belly is maple and ipe
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Post by: ken75 on January 22, 2011, 09:21:54 pm
last couple , sorry bout the dark ones
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Post by: NTD on January 22, 2011, 09:23:05 pm
What a sharp looking bow.  I'm not big on painted backs but I really like what you did with that one.  Very nice!
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Post by: half eye on January 22, 2011, 09:32:28 pm
That braced profile is about good as it gets.....just flat looks fast.
rich
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Post by: koan on January 22, 2011, 10:00:50 pm
Thats purty sweet.. opens up alot of possibilities to use up some narrow leftovers i got, thanx... what kinda glue you use?....Brian
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Post by: aznboi3644 on January 22, 2011, 10:59:58 pm
wow...I love that color combo
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Post by: ken75 on January 22, 2011, 11:41:47 pm
thanks Nate , it was different im not very artistic but i can do squiggly lines !lol
thanks Rich , it shoots nice , its light and quick
thanks Koan , i use titebond 2 on everything , too dang cheap to buy anything more expensive
thanks Anzi , thats what i was hoping for
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Post by: Matt Ewing on January 22, 2011, 11:55:28 pm
very nice!
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Post by: Cameroo on January 23, 2011, 12:01:14 am
That's very cool Ken.  Have you made many bows with the verticle lams like that?  I wonder how they would stand up in the long run...  gonna have to try one in the future!

Nice work, as usual!
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Post by: Sidewinder on January 23, 2011, 12:21:28 am
That is a unique looking bow. I ahve never seen a vertical lam like that before. Very nice work Ken.  Danny
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Post by: ken75 on January 23, 2011, 12:00:45 pm
thanks Matt
thanks Cam, this is the second. we'll have to see
thanks Sidewinder, couple weeks ago i posted a molle like this
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Post by: jeffhalfrack on January 23, 2011, 12:16:06 pm
    REAL  NICE!!!!   now  I  have  a  question,, for  you  and  half  eye.   this  way  of  lam'ing  bows  is  different  from  what  we  read!  but  couldn't  you  take  a  board  that  is  not  a  good  choice  and  rip it  and  glue it  in  a  1\4  sawn  lam  board???  and  if  that  is  so,,,,,  just  about  any  board  is  a  good  board ,,?   you  got  me  thinking  JEFFW
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Post by: swamp yeti on January 23, 2011, 02:15:00 pm
Nice looking bow ,good job.
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Post by: ken75 on January 23, 2011, 03:38:16 pm
thanks jeff , we have discussed that option but i havent gotten around to trying it . feel free to have a go at it and let me know what happens.
thanks swamp
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Post by: ken75 on January 23, 2011, 07:45:16 pm
heres the full draw on this one
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: macbow on January 23, 2011, 07:54:26 pm
Very nice Ken. How thick etc. was the strip of IPE
Ron
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Post by: cracker on January 23, 2011, 08:21:24 pm
Very cool I like it a lot.Ronnie
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Post by: mullet on January 23, 2011, 08:28:21 pm
 Neat bow, Ken. I wonder if the strip of ipe helped the hickory from taking a lot of "set" like it usually does.
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: ken75 on January 24, 2011, 12:06:54 am
thanks macbow , the ipe is 1/2 wide by 1/4 thinck , same with the hard maple
thanks Ronnie
thanks Eddie, i think ipe helps in any combo. its some dang good belly wood.
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Post by: Keenan on January 24, 2011, 12:24:01 am
Very nice bow Ken. Love what your doing with the tri lams, That full draw pic is great ;)
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Post by: ken75 on January 24, 2011, 12:46:45 am
thanks Keenan !
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Post by: oneeye on January 24, 2011, 02:37:17 am
Thats pretty.
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Post by: ken75 on January 24, 2011, 12:35:16 pm
thanks Scott, got one of the osage cores glued up and im finishing today i hope
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Post by: ohma on January 24, 2011, 02:56:32 pm
great looking bow and i to like the art work on the back.
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Post by: dragonman on January 24, 2011, 03:20:28 pm
great looking bow, I never saw a lam like that before, nice work, it looks like the ipe is doing its job but can you tell  me your reasoning for doing the lam this way around???
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: ken75 on January 25, 2011, 12:22:20 am
thanks Ohma
Dragonman, the best way i can explain it is Rich and i talk often about possabilites and theories and performance . this design has been done elsewhere but i hadnt seen it and decided to try it as i did on this one and the mollle a couple weeks ago. the idea was to pair to similar woods (strong in compression) but differing in color and use them to their best potential . the ipe being the strongest needed to be center and carry most of the workload . hard maple although great in compression was lighter than the ipe and offered some reduction in mass.from all i can tell this is a sound design and i havent seen any cons with the glue joints or bending the vertical lams. any string follow with these two bows is gone in a matter of minutes after unstringing them.hope this helps . it was just a fun expirement
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: jturkey on January 27, 2011, 01:08:50 am
thanks Ohma
Dragonman, the best way i can explain it is Rich and i talk often about possabilites and theories and performance . this design has been done elsewhere but i hadnt seen it and decided to try it as i did on this one and the mollle a couple weeks ago. the idea was to pair to similar woods (strong in compression) but differing in color and use them to their best potential . the ipe being the strongest needed to be center and carry most of the workload . hard maple although great in compression was lighter than the ipe and offered some reduction in mass.from all i can tell this is a sound design and i havent seen any cons with the glue joints or bending the vertical lams. any string follow with these two bows is gone in a matter of minutes after unstringing them.hope this helps . it was just a fun expirement

if i was looking into this with maple being one of the woods what would you say would be a good choice for the middle strip if ipe is not an option for certain reasons. maybe walnut or oak or hickory just trying to figure out my next project.
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Post by: Pappy on January 27, 2011, 08:57:28 am
Great looking bow,love the paint job and the tiller looks good also.Nice work. :) :) Bet it will spit an arrow. :) :)   
   Pappy
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Post by: nativenoobowyer86 on January 27, 2011, 03:26:08 pm
Thats a great looking bow! vertical lams had never occured to me.
Do you think a soft backing material would work on something like this? maybe rawhide or canvas?
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: ken75 on January 27, 2011, 11:56:14 pm
JT if i was going to do a similar project without ipe i would look for compression strong woods with color contrast to maple . like black cherry, beefwood, cedar ,osage and even black walnut although litghter in weight is good in compression.
thank you Pappy
native i think rawhide would be fine for a backing on this design . let me know how it turns out
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: DEllis on January 28, 2011, 12:12:10 am
Nice tiller and interesting laminate style. Pretty long draw for the NTN length too. I like ;D
Darcy
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Post by: fusizoli on January 28, 2011, 06:39:49 am
Nice and strange!

I think the ipe mid section would working better in a rounded belly bow with narower limbs.
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: ken75 on January 28, 2011, 11:15:19 am
thanks Dellis,ive been known to make a full draw shorty or two
thanks Fusiz, i was going for nice and different but i guess strange will do .
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Post by: Josh on January 28, 2011, 11:47:20 am
Very nice and different and strange entry for January Backed BOM Contest Ken!  :P  I really wanna try one of these vertical trilams one day.  Beautiful contrast on the belly and cool artwork on the back.... Tiller ain't half bad either!   :) :) :)
Title: Re: hickory backed vertical trilam (full draw added)
Post by: ken75 on January 28, 2011, 06:53:44 pm
thanks you josh  lookin forward to seeing your bows again