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Title: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on November 29, 2008, 05:01:45 pm
it's been awhile since I've made one, mainly because I've been getting great arrows from Art Butner and Chris Cade. About 6 months ago I found some nice cane, 2 nodes per arrow. I cut a couple of dozen and saved them. Then I got this nice Hopewell point from C. VanOrder. It has serrations on top of big serrations. He only gives me cool points like this if I will hunt with them. He wants to know how fancy points of that Time Era really held up to the task. So I straightened the cane last night and mounted the point. Today I put the fletching on with sinew. And now it's time to watch the Gators and the 'Holes,, uh I mean the 'Noles ;)

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Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: Pat B on November 29, 2008, 05:18:17 pm
Hows she shoot Eddie. Looks WAY too short for your draw!!! :o ::)    Looks like it will do the trick. That point is wicked!   Pat
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on November 29, 2008, 05:30:14 pm
  shoots good. Pat. It's 29", I think it looks short because of the Tail feathers. The tail feathers are weak so I leave them full size. They lay down when you shoot.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: Auggie on November 29, 2008, 06:19:13 pm
Hey mullet do the tail feathers make noise in flight? I used some secondaries  and they made a buzz compared to the primaries Id used on others.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: DanaM on November 29, 2008, 06:27:39 pm
Man that point looks sick eddie, oh yea nice arra :)
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on November 29, 2008, 07:57:16 pm
 Auggie, It does make a little noise. But then I can't hear very good and shoot close targets, so it doesn't bother me. ;)
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: Hillbilly on November 29, 2008, 08:36:51 pm
Looks good, that thing oughta make a wicked wound channel. You can shorten those feathers down a lot and they'll stiffen up.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on November 29, 2008, 10:30:14 pm
 I already did.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: D. Tiller on November 29, 2008, 10:33:55 pm
Lets see the new picture eddie of the shorter feathers. How do you cut the feathers? I am trying to make some myself.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on November 29, 2008, 10:36:02 pm
  I'll do it tomorrow in the day light. I was shooting it today and tuning the fletching. It made a difference.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: 1/2primitive on November 29, 2008, 11:33:08 pm
Nice looking arrow, hope you get something with it.
I've been using the two fletch a lot lately. It's really handy because of how easy it is. :)
 It looks like the feathers are facing down. I did them like that for a while and wasn't impressed with how they shot. Per Pat, I turned them so they are facing out away from the arrow shaft. I don't know how it is shooting for you, but that really helped the flight of my arrows.
     Sean
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on November 30, 2008, 12:08:50 am
  If you are using tail feathers you can turn them out. If you are using secondary wing feathers you need to turn them in, since they are curved .
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: Bone pile on November 30, 2008, 09:11:57 am
looks like a good un' Eddie.Next time I make the journey up to CVO's I think a lesson in arrows will be my request.That one sure looks like it would get the job done.
Bone pile
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on November 30, 2008, 04:16:39 pm
 Thanks Roger. David, just got back from hunting. Here's the pictures of the feathers trimmed

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Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: D. Tiller on November 30, 2008, 04:22:17 pm
I like it Eddie! I am going to make up a bunch like that.  Those are just so easy and quick to put together that way.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: Dustybaer on December 01, 2008, 12:49:36 pm
wow, what a beautiful  arrow.  very inspiring.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on December 01, 2008, 06:11:07 pm
 Thankyou, sir.
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: TRACY on December 04, 2008, 02:57:07 pm
Very nice Mullet. I'm new to doing two fletch but really like the ones I've done.

Tracy
Title: Re: two-fletch
Post by: mullet on December 13, 2008, 01:06:19 pm
  Here's another one I finished last night

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Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Woodland Roamer on December 13, 2008, 07:53:07 pm
Nice arrows Eddie, that's about my favorite style of fletching.

Alan
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: david w. on December 13, 2008, 08:44:22 pm
That is good lookin arrow
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on December 13, 2008, 09:38:06 pm
 Very cool. Ya know how partial I is ta tail feathers. The pernts are great, 2nd one is just plain beautiful ! ;D..bob
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Pat B on December 13, 2008, 11:48:10 pm
I've seen a pic of a pig you put an arrow in its head and you can't hit one of them pineapples. ::)
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 14, 2008, 12:44:37 am
    Pat, Three pic's and different angles too, I gotta try harder. ;D
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: DanaM on December 14, 2008, 06:18:05 am
Man those pineapples look good so does the sun ;) nice arra too :)
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: D. Tiller on December 14, 2008, 03:09:13 pm
Sun warm and pineapples! What a life!

Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Dustybaer on December 16, 2008, 07:27:28 am
beautiful head.  mullet, you are an artist when it comes to arrows. 
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 16, 2008, 03:12:24 pm
 Two more weeks and pick the pineapples, yum yum. Thank you Marius, they both shoot great, too.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: heavybow on December 16, 2008, 03:30:07 pm
Very nice arrow ;D Marlon
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: cowboy on December 16, 2008, 06:30:04 pm
Wow! why am I just now finding this? Them's some nice arra's Eddie, bet they'll do the job. And that's just weird seeing pineapples growing in somebody's back yard ;D.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: D. Tiller on December 16, 2008, 06:36:52 pm
Can you do this with only turkey tail feathers or can you use primary and secondarys? I tried some this way with secondarys but they stuck out from the shaft a lot! Help!!!!
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 16, 2008, 11:04:55 pm
 David, secondaries work, but work the best when you turn them backwards to the shaft.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Hillbilly on December 17, 2008, 09:12:18 am
What Eddie said-turn the dull side out, makes a big difference.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: D. Tiller on December 17, 2008, 01:59:43 pm
Thanks guys! I'll do that.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 21, 2008, 10:29:32 pm
  Well the first arrow with the jagged point is going hunting in the morning. I talked to my Buddy yesterday and then tonight and he has about 15 turkeys showing up in the mornings. He said 7, I think,were gobblers, with 3 long beards and hens. The only cover is a blown down limb of a huge Live Oak. No leaves, but I have to crawl back in there and still have a shot. If it works , there will be pictures.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on December 21, 2008, 10:49:10 pm
Well good huntin' there "young fella." ;DTurkey meat fer supper huh ?......bob
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 22, 2008, 05:55:43 pm
  Nope! just feathers. ;D
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Hillbilly on December 22, 2008, 07:18:31 pm
Takes a lot of feathers for a meal, plus they smell bad when you cook 'em.......:)
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 22, 2008, 07:30:27 pm
  That's alright, I didn't get enough to eat. I was so cold laying there for 2hours without moving, I was kinda glad it was over.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Hillbilly on December 22, 2008, 08:32:44 pm
It was 8 degrees here this morning-you'd love it...:)
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Pat B on December 23, 2008, 12:04:22 am
9deg here!
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 23, 2008, 09:20:04 am
 We'll be back in the 80's Christmas day. ;D
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: D. Tiller on December 24, 2008, 02:52:27 am
Eddie, Eddie ...tich...tich! Such abuse your laying on us!!!  ::)

Its 32 today!
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 24, 2008, 07:13:27 pm
   Merry Christmas, David, I'll be Tanning tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: xbow on December 28, 2008, 02:14:37 pm
HI all, i am new to primitive archery and have a couple of questions. On the arrows, is that real sinew or synthetic? Only two fletch? I don't get it. I am a Scadian archer that is just getting into primitive. I do make my own arrows but they are medieval and I wanna do this stuff it is way cooler.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 28, 2008, 02:38:15 pm
  Welcome, The wrap is ostrich sinew and deer backstrap sinew. The two fletch was used by a lot of Native American people. It is fairly quick and easy to make and these two arrows fly perfect out of my 60# sinew backed Osage bow.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: xbow on December 28, 2008, 03:34:03 pm
Wicked cool, I wanna learn that! is there some place on the internet that someone can point me to learn how to do two fletch? Is the boyers den alright? Like said in my previous post I am Scadian ( in the SCA) I used to do armoured combat but have since move on to archery. To make a long story short (too late) I have a big roll of artificial sinew (waxed nylon). Although not authentic will this do for a start?
Do you glue the fletch or are they tied on like medieval arrows?
Thanks in advance and thank you Mullet for your welcome.
xbow
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: D. Tiller on December 28, 2008, 05:00:10 pm
This is the best place to learn everything and anything about primitive archery. Artificial sinew is just fine but make sure you supper glue the sinew wrap at the front and back to secure it better since the artificial sinew does not shrink and the wax will make it slide a bit when you shoot it. I use artificial sinew all the time.

Nope, you do not need to spiraly wrap the feathers to make them stay in place. This is a majorly easy and quick way to fletch arrows and you can use feathers other than the primary feathes to fletch arrows with this way.

Have fun!
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on December 28, 2008, 07:22:14 pm
  Go to page 7, in this section(arrows), 10 threads down,"help with two fletch,pl".  Explore some more in the back pages of this section, there are some more.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: xbow on December 31, 2008, 02:16:28 am
Fantastic, thanks for the info. :)
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: majsnuff on January 07, 2009, 11:26:54 pm
Awesome arrow, and those heads are outta this world. I can tell I need lots more practice.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: xbow on January 12, 2009, 12:22:57 am
Thanks Mullet and Dtiller, your info is much appreciated. I have never felt so welcomed into a community as I have here. Y'all rock
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: D. Tiller on January 12, 2009, 02:41:52 am
Glad your having fun with the site and the gang here. I found this site a few years ago and made a bunch of good friends through it.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: 3Bows on January 18, 2009, 02:41:44 pm
Eddie:
Where can I get some cane?  I'm over here in St. Augustine and I'm wondering if it can be found around here.  I've got my own turkeys in the backyard, so feathers aren't a problem.
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: Pat B on January 18, 2009, 02:56:56 pm
3Bows, you should be able to find all sorts of cane near you. Look along the fresh water rivers, drainage ditches and the woods along the roads...and in your neighbors yards.     Pat
Title: Re: two-fletch-one more
Post by: mullet on January 18, 2009, 09:03:50 pm
 3bows, like Pat said. The closer you get to Ga. the better for cane. It doesn't grow down here where I'm at. Or look for Bamboo.