Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: FlintWalker on December 13, 2008, 12:55:48 am
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I've had it on my mind for a while now and decided if I was ever gonna get it done, I need to start cutting. I cut a couple nice straight ones today, one was about 4" and another one about 6" in diameter. When I split them the grain spiraled around about 45 degrees from one end to the other.. No bows from those staves >:(
I love the look of the wood and it being so common around here, surely I'll find one that doesn't twist so bad. The grain looks stringy and tough like osage and it seems heavy and dense too. Hopefully I'll come up with a good piece before long.
For those out there that have tried it... Did you remove the sapwood like you would osage, or leave it? Any info would help. Thanks, Saw Filer
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Shannon, I removed a trunk(4") from a multi trunked red bud at my house and have it drying in my shop. It should make a good bow. It is a legume like locust and a relatively heavy, hard wood.
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Its going to make one heck of a nice looking bow! Don't forget to show us some pics. when you get going on it.
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Don't let a little Twist sway you.....give then Staves a try....looks like some awesome wood.........don't make Fre with it just yet!!
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That is some pretty wood Shannon, Before ya load the wood stove with em hows about slabbing a few
pieces for knife handles. Just set em aside for me until we trade again :)
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heck ya,give it a try.
ifn you dant want to, i will.i aint afraid of a little twist.
set one aside and lets figure out a trade.
peace,
tim
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I have a few cut too .Still drying .
Ralph
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Any bow made from that stuff wood be absoulutly beautiful.
I hope it works. ;D ;D
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I resort to finding good lengths for splicing. Great bow wood, resembles osage/locust when working it. Like osage, it's tough to find board straight pieces, so I use what I can get. It's growth habit and form is not greatest. I use the heartwood.
Good luck
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Thanks Tracy F. :) What about dimensions? I normally make my osage bows from 1-1/4 to 1-3/8" wide and 62" or less. Will redbud handle it, or should I start out a little longer and wider? What about straightening with heat?
I'd like to see one if you have a picture.
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I'm not convinced that redbud is all that heavy when dried. I don't have any numbers to share, but I have a couple of pieces that I cut two years ago and have dried in the hot box. The wood feels pretty light weight now. Though since it is a relative of Locust, I'd imagine that it is fairly tough and stiff even if light in the Specific Gravity rating. I would say that Redbud is even lighter than Honey Locust.
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That is some pretty wood Shannon. I had no idea red bud was a heartwood - figured It'd be whitle all the way through. It'll be interesting to watch your progress or at least results.
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I read somewhere it was in the Osage family,Maybe Pat or Hillbilly could confirm that. :) our someone else,they just usually know.I have thought about it just never got around to trying it. :)
Pappy
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I had a billet-sized piece cut at one point, had forgotten about it actually. I'll have to see if I can find it.
I read somewhere it was in the Osage family,Maybe Pat or Hillbilly could confirm that
Redbud isn't in the same family as osage (mulberry family), but as others have already said, it's in the same family as locust.
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Saw Flier, sorry for the delay. I tend to leave it slightly wider than osage dimensions, around 1 3/8 " at the fades min. with a similar degree of taper to the nock end. That piece you're holding in the pic is very nice and should work just fine. I use steam box and form for straightening, but would think dry heat would work fine. I have been restricted by material lengths, up to 56-60" overall and think 62 would be fine. Some larger trees that I've cut tend to have heart rot/severe twist and end up as firewood. Billets from smaller trees work fine. Good luck!
Tracy
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Thanks Tracy, the two I cut are too twisted to get a bow from, but that stuff's as common as fescue around here, so I know I can find a better one. After I split those, I started really looking at the bark and you could see the twist. The next ones I find, I'll study the bark a little better before I cut it.
Billet size stuff would be easy to get, but I want to try to find a long piece before I resort to that.
I'm determined to make a bow from it, and will sooner or later.
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Looked up the specific gravity of redbud, .63 or about the same as some oaks. Not real tough stuff but should make a bow.
I cut a storm downed one up for an elderly neighbor a few years ago, sure was pretty wood. It was already in firewood sized pieces before I thought about making a bow from it.
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I never even heard of red bud, but it looks like a nice hard wood, you Americans are lucky you've got way more species of tree to make bows from than we have over here on our little island, It makes me want to emigrate over the ocean!!!
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never used it, but it looks like it would make a real nice bow, lookng foward to seeing the bow man, -jimmy