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Title: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: wakosama on February 16, 2009, 11:17:26 pm
Please post pics of vises or bow holding devices used and comment on how you use and like them.  Newbie minds would like to know.
Thanks.
Tom
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Post by: Pat B on February 17, 2009, 12:12:19 am
This is my bench vise. I have a shaving horse also but I will have to locate the pics.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/forDon010-2.jpg)
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Post by: JackCrafty on February 17, 2009, 01:14:38 am
I don't use anything to hold my bows (other than my hands) and probably never will.  Don't know why, really.
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Post by: adb on February 17, 2009, 01:15:29 am
I have a vice, floor mounted on a pedestal.

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Post by: Pappy on February 17, 2009, 09:28:49 am
Here are a few I use. The big ones on the truck frame rail I use for debarking Osage ,mainly. :)
   Pappy

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Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 17, 2009, 10:23:13 am
I just use a woodworker's vice with a piece of leather to protect the stave. Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/bowbench.html
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Post by: Dane on February 17, 2009, 11:32:49 am
Ammending my statement. No vice at all, just standard Jorgenson handscrew clamps. Two together can be used pretty creatively. I have shots at home, I'll post later.

Dane
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Post by: Gordon on February 17, 2009, 11:39:24 am
Here is my setup

(http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/HazelBuildALong/hzb013.jpg)
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Post by: Keenan on February 17, 2009, 01:48:17 pm
 The first is my main bow bench in the shop, two big wood vices and the block hole are a big help.  The second is my metal working vice that I sometimes use for sinew curing.  The third is my own designed bow bench for portable bow working anywhere.

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Post by: Timo on February 17, 2009, 02:56:55 pm
Mines mounted in the floor like Abd's. I like the idea of being able to keep the bench free and also working all around the bow without haveing to unclamp. Works for me. Love that horse with the camo seat!
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Post by: sulphur on February 17, 2009, 11:14:15 pm
dont have a pic but i prefer the woodworkers vise.  no serrated surface to the jaws.  plus i use rubber pads so as not to crush the wood.  If i had my way i would have a woodworking table from Rocklers, not in this economy though.
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Post by: Lost Arra on February 18, 2009, 11:23:18 am
I cobbled this woodworking vice on to a Workmate for most scraping and rasping. I like being able to move it outside since I like sunlight to chase an osage ring.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/LostArrow/lumpy04.jpg)


For heavy work like debarking I have an outdoor vice mounted on an oil field pipe that even has a nice custom rain cover. ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/LostArrow/vice3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/LostArrow/vice4.jpg)
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Post by: adb on February 18, 2009, 03:08:09 pm
I like your custom rain cover!! That is also a very good idea. I have a large cement pad outside behind my shop, and come this spring, I'm going to mount another vise outside. Thanks!
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Post by: Barrage on February 18, 2009, 03:24:13 pm
Yikes Pappy!  I think you need a couple more lol!!  Looks like a good idea though.  I got a couple vises laying around that I didn't want to throw on the bench b/c I like having a clear bench.  Have to make me a horsie I guess...
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Post by: majsnuff on February 18, 2009, 11:24:22 pm
man, I am envious, you have some great vices.
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Post by: Pappy on February 19, 2009, 07:41:51 am
Barrage,can't have to many vices,I think we have 15/16 at the club and when the classic gets here that ant enough. :) Lost arra I have a workmate just like that,it is handy when you travel. :)
     Pappy
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Post by: Eric Krewson on February 20, 2009, 10:36:11 am
Here are some easy to make vise jaw pads.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/newvisejaws.jpg)

Adding a post near your vise is the handiest add on you can have while working on bows. It supports your stave while you are doing serious wood removal and acts as a great stop for bending wood.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bendingpost.jpg)
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Post by: chriss880 on February 20, 2009, 10:43:12 am
i just have vice and some clamps that work really good

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Post by: FlintWalker on February 20, 2009, 08:38:36 pm
Boy!  Either you fellers don't use your vises much, or i'm just a slob! ::)
  Here's what I use to pad the jaws on my vice.  It's just some thick rubber hose split down one side. I like it better than leather.  You can just slip it off if you don't need it, plus no matter how hard you tighten it, it won't dent your wood. 

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Post by: Hillbilly on February 20, 2009, 09:20:59 pm
I use a shaving horse for debarking and chasing rings, a bench-mounted vise for the rest of the process.
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Post by: Badger on February 21, 2009, 02:03:05 am
Here is one I use for rel highly reflexed bows, don't use it often but If I am having trouble with one I pull it out. I just crank it down and tiller while it is in the stirrups.

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Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: ludimile on February 21, 2009, 10:37:40 am
I just clamp onto a heavy table with the part being worked overhanging the edge. i put a pice of cloth underneath the back when working the belly
Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: Hojo on February 21, 2009, 02:16:36 pm
I struggled with the small vise that I have for a long while.  Made some of the vise jaw pads like Eric K's (above) out of some old OSB scraps and they vastly improve the vise's ability to hold staves --- and with no damage.   Great idea, Eric!
Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: wakosama on February 26, 2009, 10:14:07 pm
The majority seem to prefer a large heavy machinists vise, solidly mounted.  A bit surprising since bows are wood, but I can see why from the pictures and having done a little bow work.  I especially like all the different jaw padding options.

Thanks everyone...

LUK
Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: Pat B on February 26, 2009, 10:52:06 pm
That's one reason I leave the handle shaping until last. A nice solid squared off handle area clamps well and holds well without scaring the finished handle, whether your vise jaws are padded or not.
Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: medicinewheel on February 27, 2009, 08:47:56 am

this is my bench; i'm forth generation using it! my grandfather and my gran-grandfather have been carpenters, so it has it's history.
i mounted the vice and it's pretty good working hight for me now. although the free space that i have this way on both sides of the bow works great for me.
i see some really good ideas for paddind the vice here, thanks for that!
f.



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Post by: Postman on February 27, 2009, 10:01:20 am
Highly portable....

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Post by: Sidewinder on February 27, 2009, 04:26:58 pm
Gitter done boys. I don't have a camera handy right now but I use a 4" one a buddy gave me when he was downsizing and getting rid of the three of everything he had.  I built a bowworking bench like the many I saw at OJAM last year with a some outriggers for stabbility. the bench is heavy but when debarking you need something that not gonna move on ya. I have been using leather scraps as pads for the wood but I like the rubber hose idea. One could call it portable if I still had a truck but it won't fit in the trunk of the car so I guess it is'nt, lol I can move it around my area  as need though and I am happy with it. The bench also serves as a stitting bench when company is over and we need extra seats by the fire ring, I just take the vise off and voilla it goes from bow bench to guest seating in no time flat. Works great. I love seeing where everyone makes their shavings. Its nice to know I'm not the only one out there thats a little off kilter with the wood shaving thing. Danny
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Post by: DanaM on February 27, 2009, 06:19:57 pm
I have lots of vices drinkin, smokin, chasing.... oh you meant vises ;) ;D
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Post by: medicinewheel on February 28, 2009, 03:32:40 am

dana, thanks for the correction!
just to round this up a little: in british english it is "vice", not "vise"

wie sieht's bei dir mit fremdsprachen aus??
lieben gruß, frank
Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2009, 07:14:45 am
sorry frank I just couldn't resist ;) :D Just the way I am :o
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Post by: Dane on February 28, 2009, 09:48:51 am
Frank, that is a very fine bench you have! Someday, mine may be half as nice.

Here are two shots of how I use wooden clamps to hold work. I have an old office table I use as a bench, so I dont have fixed vices on it.

Dane

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Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: medicinewheel on February 28, 2009, 10:05:09 am
sorry frank I just couldn't resist ;) :D Just the way I am :o

dana, no problem! neither could i...  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Vises... bow holding devices...
Post by: El Destructo on February 28, 2009, 10:30:41 am

dana, thanks for the correction!
just to round this up a little: in british english it is "vice", not "vise"

wie sieht's bei dir mit fremdsprachen aus??
lieben gruß, frank

     It is in Yoopanese too.....dats Yooper English ....Dana must have been testing Da Suds (read beer) last night......... :P Or just makin a Funny..... ::)