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Title: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on March 18, 2009, 07:53:51 pm
This is my first completed arrow out of 6 I started. The footing is purpleheart and the nock is an unidentified hardwood that the store gave to me. They were extremely time consuming and I'm not sure it's worth it :-\ But they sure look pretty. ;D So what do you guys think?
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on March 18, 2009, 07:55:06 pm
Here they are. :)

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Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: adb on March 18, 2009, 08:06:51 pm
Looks pretty darn good to me. I especially like the nocks.
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Timo on March 18, 2009, 10:36:42 pm
Had a passion for that a few yrs ago. I like to learn new things and then move on,somethings hang with me, others set back until needed again.

Footing shafts is very rewarding,but very time consuming. Those look very nice. You did good!
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on March 19, 2009, 12:05:14 am
Thanks guys I'm glad you like them. The only problem with them is that I'm going to be too scared to shoot them now.  :D
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Pappy on March 19, 2009, 08:24:05 am
Nice work ,they look good,I have thought about it but figured it was very time consumming so haven't gave it a shot yet,maybe when I retire.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Long Arrow on March 19, 2009, 08:56:54 am
Nice going.

Footong arrows always seemed tough to me.
That is one thing it will be a while before I try.

How does it fly?

Kevin
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on March 19, 2009, 03:35:16 pm
Pappy, They are VERY time consuming :o I think I spent 6 hours on the first one. After that it took about four hours per arrow. Long arrow, I haven't shot them yet I still don't have tips for them yet I was going to put some field points on them but I can't find a store that sells them. Sportsmans warehouse here sells everything to make your own arrow, but not the tips for those arrows. :D
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Little John on March 23, 2009, 08:25:55 am
Nice work. I also have not tried footing arrows but maybe some day. You can getpoints from 3 Rivers. I think they are in our advertizers section or look them up on line.    Kenneth
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: beardedhorse on March 31, 2009, 04:34:17 am
Hey, you are to be commended for a job well  done, first attempt or not.  What sort of glue/s did you use?  did you mix in some ppurpleheart dust into the glue for the v-splices?  I've competed with purple heart foreshafted atlatl darts for decades and not until recently have I put on any metal field points.  If you are only shooting into bvales of straw you can get by.  Otherwise get some 70, 100 and 125 grain field points.  Depending on the density of the species of lumberyard dowel you used for the main shaft, a 125 grtain field point may make the arrow too point heavy.  I recommend a balance point of 7 to 10 percent forward of center for target shooting.  Find the balance point on the finished arrow and mark it.  Measure the overall length of the arrow and then measure from the nock end of the arrow to the balance point.  Divide the last measurement with the overall length to give you a percentage.  I call this the balance point. To get the forward of center, subtract 50 percent from your figure.  You will most likely have to use a file or rasp and sandpaper instead of the pencil sharpener taper tool to get the hard purpleheart foreshaft tapered.  By all means, shoot them.  Enjoy the fruits of your labor.  Until next time.  Go to the woods.  Walk softly.  And carry a bent stick.
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: bebloomster on March 31, 2009, 06:27:06 am
Oh drat... there goes another keyboard from drooling on it.  Very nice work indeed !!!
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on March 31, 2009, 02:37:23 pm
I used 30 minute epoxy on all of the splices and no I didn't mix in any of the dust. I just got some points so I'm going to put those on and go out and shoot them. I usually shoot in my back yard but I have destroyed countless arrows on the cinder block wall around it >:( so I might go somewhere else to shoot these. ;D
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Little John on April 02, 2009, 10:27:16 pm
Where do ya live in S.W. Utah? There should be tons of places to stump shoot. A sand wash works good for me.   Kenneth
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on April 04, 2009, 11:37:15 pm
I live in st. george so it's mostly rock and sand. Sand does make a perfect backstop but it wear the finish off the arrows extremely fast and I get tired of redoing it. ;D I did go out and shoot them a few times and they shoot great. I'm still scared to shoot them they took about an average of four hours a piece compared to 15 minutes a piece for my normal arrows. :P
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Pat B on April 05, 2009, 12:10:34 am
I spend 3 to 4 hours on each of my primitive arrows but I make them to shoot and when I shoot I loose one or two. It's part of the game! ;D
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on April 05, 2009, 03:25:59 pm
Last time I shot I broke 3 out of 4 arrows all destroyed by the evil cinderblock wall around my back yard. I need to figure out a way to keep my arrows from hitting it if I miss. Right now all I do is make arrows, at least they are cheap. ;D
Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: daniel on April 05, 2009, 05:11:27 pm
Hi there,
I've been making 2 point footed/self nocked arrows for just over a year now. When finished they look very much thesame as your on the photo above. Using only hand tools (block plane, small thumb plane some sandpeper) I average about 1/2h per shaft so I don't understand which part of the process is taking you so long Jmilbrandt?

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Title: Re: My first attempt at hardwood foreshaft and nocks.
Post by: Jmilbrandt on April 05, 2009, 05:28:18 pm
Show off! ;D I don't really know why it takes so long it's probably just because I had never done them before the first arrow took 6 hours and the last one took maybe four. I used the same tools as you so maybe I'm just not as skilled, yours look very nice.