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Title: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 14, 2009, 10:47:03 pm
I just finished up this Osage flatbow.  It is 52" nock to nock.  It came in at 50# @ 26".  It is 1 1/4"wide through the handle tapering to 5/8" over the last 9" of the limbs.  Unbraced it has a slight amount of reflex left.  I heat bent 1 1/2" of reflex into it.   I killed some of the bright yellow with some rotten black walnut husk juice.  The paint work is done with primitive pigments in an acrylic base.  I used a paraffin wax finish to keep it dull and looking more abo.  The grip done with Dogbane cordage (I think processsing enough for the grip took me longer than roughing and tillering the bow. ;)).  I made a sinew string for it with backstrap sinew (Thanks for the sinew DanaM and the how to Jackcrafty).  The bottom limb is really smooth the top limb has a bit more character.   It shoots with less hand shock than I imagined it would, and spits out an arrow pretty fast. 

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Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 14, 2009, 10:49:02 pm
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Post by: Timo on April 14, 2009, 10:54:12 pm
Now I am impressed! very sweet lil bow,with great tiller.Well done and I admire you for all your hard work.
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: Blacktail on April 14, 2009, 11:29:10 pm
wow,that is a great shooter...i love the paint job..and the cordage handle...whats the bow string made of..great job...i hope its going deer hunting this year.john
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Post by: Pennhawk on April 14, 2009, 11:31:56 pm
Good looking bow. Did you get a lott of time making the string? Nice work.
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Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 14, 2009, 11:35:27 pm
most excellent
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Post by: Bullitt on April 14, 2009, 11:42:35 pm
 Rick, fine job! The sinew string is alot of time ,I know. you did great .It makes you appreciate the skill and effort to survive!
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: koan on April 14, 2009, 11:43:09 pm
SWEEEEET!!..Waste not want not, and there definately aint no waste on this one!....Brian
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: Pat B on April 14, 2009, 11:56:51 pm
That bow is definitely 9/10 broken. 8) You got every bit of goody out of that piece of wood and did it expertly. ;) The only thing that could improve the design would have been single side nocks but I ain't complaining.
  If you are coming to the classic, bring it!
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: knightd on April 15, 2009, 12:11:53 am
Sweet I like the way it came out.. Two thumbs up..
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Post by: The Burnt Hill Archer on April 15, 2009, 02:34:11 am
now thats what i call a bow. very well done. i think ill wait another month to post my new hickory bow... :D

Phil
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Post by: AKAPK on April 15, 2009, 03:18:22 am
Very good D, I am getting ready to start a 50 inch D Thanks for the inspiration.Phillip oh and the Color and design is A+
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Post by: Bowbound on April 15, 2009, 04:46:40 am
Nice, a proper primitive bow. I'd be scared when my bows start bending that far. :)
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Post by: Pappy on April 15, 2009, 06:20:43 am
Beautiful bow,tiller looks nice ,very well done. :)
  Pappy
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 15, 2009, 06:57:02 am
Thanks for the compliments guys.
Blacktail -  the string is sinew from whitetail backstrap sinew.

Pennhawk- the string took a fair bit of time, longer than a B 50 but not as long as messing with plant fiber cordage.  The first one I made failed (lousy splice).  This one I made sure I overlapped the splices deeper and it worked out.  They are a lot of fun to make,  and look really good as well.

Pat-  I'll be bringing it to TN (hopefully in one piece ;D).  I was thinking about side nocks but chickend out.  Too many new things to me on this one already.

Limey-Josh- Believe me when I had it to 26" on the tree I was getting ready to run :o
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: DanaM on April 15, 2009, 07:42:01 am
Been looking forward to seeing this one done Rick, I'm duly impressed and hope ya let me shoot it :)
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Post by: GregB on April 15, 2009, 08:10:16 am
Now that bow is a great accomplishment with a lot of work involved! Very nice! I worked a little with dogbane and know it is very time consuming, especially to get enough for a handle, which turned out sweet by the way! Never did a sinew string, looks like it's doing the job it was intended for. Great tiller and artwork on the bow! Very impressive all around! Hope to see it at the Classic! ;)
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Post by: Staver on April 15, 2009, 08:27:42 am
That bow is what everybody else said 8)  Great work!  Joe H
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Post by: TRACY on April 15, 2009, 09:14:04 am
Excellent all around! I really like the way you tillered it and got all of it bending in unison.
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: Ryano on April 15, 2009, 09:49:48 am
That's a cool looking very primitive little bow. Looks like the string angles are right at 90 degree's at your draw length and probably starting to stack pretty badly that last inch or so of draw....? The tiller looks spot on and I admire your very "primitive" finnish job on the bow and string, again great job!  8)
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Post by: brownhillboy on April 15, 2009, 03:39:13 pm
Very cool bow and I really like the art work!  Tiller is excellent too!  Great job!
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: Osagetree on April 15, 2009, 05:04:01 pm
Very Nice, I like it alot!
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: Kent D. on April 15, 2009, 05:15:33 pm
Great job.  Bow looks great.
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: cracker on April 15, 2009, 06:27:43 pm
Great lookin piece of work.Very well done.Ron
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Post by: John K on April 15, 2009, 06:32:33 pm
Not much i can add that hasn't already been said.......Great bow !!
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 15, 2009, 06:53:59 pm
Outstanding work! Jawge
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: PeteC on April 15, 2009, 09:49:44 pm
That's an excellent bow!!!All your detail work is wonderful.Like everybody else said;great job. God Bless
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 15, 2009, 10:32:44 pm
Dana- You're more than welcome to shoot it.  I know it will be safe, you have a short draw like me.
Greg B-  I'll be bringing it to Pappy's.  I figured it would be bad karma not to bring a Osage bow to Pappy's shoot.  The sinew string was pretty easy because of the long backstraps I used.  You should give it a go.  If I can manage it anyone can, and it is much easier and quicker than dogbane or milkweed.
Ryano-  It does get pretty hard the last inch or so. It definitely doesn't want to go past 26" 
Thankyou to everyone else for the compliments.
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Post by: Woodland Roamer on April 15, 2009, 11:17:23 pm
That's a really great little primitive bow! The art work is nice and the tiller and the handle and the sinew string.......it's all nice!

Alan
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: jamie on April 16, 2009, 06:02:45 am
dude that one may end up dissappearing out of your truck next time. great job. i cant believe you can draw a 50 inch bow with those orangatan arms ;D
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Post by: OldBow on April 16, 2009, 11:12:10 am
Short bows always get my attention and this one is a dandy. Looking forward to seeing it again for Self BOM fun.
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: salad days on April 16, 2009, 01:11:49 pm
Man that is nice Rick. I love the paint job. Obviously it has perfect tiller being that short and drawn that long. You've out done yourself again!  :o
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Post by: Keenan on April 16, 2009, 01:34:20 pm
Very nice bow. That is definitely pushing the envelope on draw for length ratios. Great job tiller looks great as dose the paint scheme. Authentic string to boot, Congratulations on a fine bow.
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: Hillbilly on April 16, 2009, 04:09:21 pm
I missed this one somehow until now. Rick, that's a fine looking bow, love the overall look, tiller, and everything else. Good job!
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: venisonburger on April 16, 2009, 06:07:46 pm
Love that bow, I'm fond of the shorties and your painting really makes it stand out.
VB
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Post by: Jesse on April 16, 2009, 08:31:07 pm
Thats a cool bow 8). Im happy to see you went all out and even made a sinew string. very cool.
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 17, 2009, 10:18:20 pm
dude that one may end up dissappearing out of your truck next time. great job. i cant believe you can draw a 50 inch bow with those orangatan arms ;D
Jamie-
You're just jealous that I can tie my shoes without having to bend over. ;D
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: jamie on April 18, 2009, 06:33:10 am
now that was funny ;D
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Post by: Little John on April 18, 2009, 10:29:56 am
Yes Rick very coolbow and all that everyone else has already said. I an normally not that big  a fan of short bows but this one really is impressive. I really like that every bit of it is working to the max, also really like the primitive cordage handle and string, a serious contender for Bow of the Month. Funny I also made a sinue string with backstrap sinue from Dana and how to from Jackcrafty I recomend it to any one intrested in primitive technology.    Kenneth
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 18, 2009, 09:30:08 pm
Little John-  I agree, Patrick's how to is a great piece of info.   The best thing about a short bow is that you need that much less string. ;D.
Thanks again for the kind words everyone.
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Post by: Dauntless on April 20, 2009, 11:58:13 pm
Wonderful shortie.  It's not often one sees short Indian style osage bows.
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Post by: Dane on April 21, 2009, 02:05:51 pm
Everyone else has said it all. What a beauty, Rick. I hope to see it in person one day, maybe the Woodbury event? How exactly did you make the paint?

BTW, I searched a second time for that old soapstone quarry. Still no luck, but I'm sure it's just out of sight. I'll have to post photos when I get a chance in the anything else section. 

Dane
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 21, 2009, 11:03:41 pm
Dane-
If it holds, I'll be bringing it to the Algonquin shoot.  The paint is just some mail order primitive pigments mixed with acrylic matte medium.  The real deal is done with hide glue medium.  I was too lazy for that. ;).  I'd like to see the pics and hear the story of the Quarry Search part 2.  Your stories are the best.
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Post by: Dane on April 22, 2009, 07:35:17 am
Rick, I look forward to seeing this bow in June. Thanks for the info on the paint. I have some red ochre and some green earth pigment I'm about to use, and you have helped me decide what to do.

I'll get the lost quarry part two up in the next day or so. Alas, I didn't see any ghosts at the haunted school house, but maybe next time I will.

Dane
Title: Re: Shorty Osage Flat Bow (lots of pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 22, 2009, 09:37:48 pm
Dane
When I mixed it,  I used quite a pit of the powder to the base, in order to get a deep color.  Then I mixed in a bit of water to thin it out and make it flow better.  Not to primitive I know but I liked the way it looked.   Just make sure you get the matte base. 

I have to get in on the next quarry run,  I'm in need of a ghostly schoolhouse interaction.
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Post by: jamie on April 23, 2009, 05:45:57 am
ooh, ooh, ooh me too me tooo!
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Post by: Dane on April 23, 2009, 06:25:35 am
Rick, thanks. Sounds like a good technique for a good look.

As for the quarry, I'm going to get a good topo map of the area, that will make it a bit easier to locate the quarries (two next to each other, and both very ellusive). I have a new GPS application for my i phone that should hep too.

You, me and Jamie will coordinate a time to meet up and go up there that works for all of us. Pretty countrside, very desolate. I'll post some photos (and videos if I can) after work today in a new thread in Anything Else.

Dane