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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Kent D. on April 17, 2009, 01:04:16 pm

Title: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Kent D. on April 17, 2009, 01:04:16 pm
Ive got hackberry growing all over the place.  I have been wanting to make a self bow from it, but have never given  it a try.  Osage is also around here, so Ive never ventured into hackberry.   My question is;  Ive been told that you dont need to chase a ring with hackberry, that you can debark it and use that for the backing.  Are they talking about the cambium, or the first ring under the cambium? 

Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: El Destructo on April 17, 2009, 01:11:25 pm
If it is Green....Peel the Bark off ....and you are good to go....if it is dry....it will be a little more of a Challenge...scrape the Bark and Cambium off....or leave a little Cambium...if you like the Design....as I do....but you do not have to chase a Ring on Hackberry....unless you mess up and violate the fist ring when debarking it....so go slow
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Kent D. on April 17, 2009, 01:24:09 pm
Thanks a million.  Sounds like ive been over looking a gold mine. ;)
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Kent D. on April 17, 2009, 02:11:11 pm
One more question, when curing hackberry, do you debark after spliting and seal the back and ends?
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: bambule on April 17, 2009, 02:20:19 pm
If it's green - debark it. Sealing the ends is good ever I think you can't do it wrong on any wood...
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: El Destructo on April 17, 2009, 02:32:43 pm
                 I seal all ends and the Backs...when I debark...keeps the dehydration Process slower....less checks and splits
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Kent D. on April 17, 2009, 02:44:02 pm
Thanks once agian.  I think ill go out this weekend and cut some logs. ;)
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: dantolin on April 17, 2009, 03:17:57 pm
Hi,
the hackberry that I've cut in spring took a lot of reflex when reduced green to 1" deep at handle area to 3/5 at tips. So, if you don't want so much reflex, let more wood on the stave. (Hackberry here is celtis australis, the european one...I live in Spain). And if dried enough, and wide enought, it will make a good bow, sure!
David
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Kent D. on April 17, 2009, 03:28:25 pm
Hi,
the hackberry that I've cut in spring took a lot of reflex when reduced green to 1" deep at handle area to 3/5 at tips. So, if you don't want so much reflex, let more wood on the stave. (Hackberry here is celtis australis, the european one...I live in Spain). And if dried enough, and wide enought, it will make a good bow, sure!
David

I like reflex.  I cant beleive Ive been ignoring hackberry all this time.  Im starting to get excited about it.
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: TRACY on April 17, 2009, 04:11:45 pm
Splits like elm since it's in the same family. Seal the ends and back(if bark was removed). You'll find other hackberry bows and info on a search. Good luck

Tracy
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Kent D. on April 17, 2009, 04:20:34 pm
Splits like elm since it's in the same family. Seal the ends and back(if bark was removed). You'll find other hackberry bows and info on a search. Good luck

Tracy
Thanks Tracy.  I did a search but didnt find what I was looking for.  Ive now got the info I need.   ;)
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Hillbilly on April 17, 2009, 04:36:54 pm
Here's one prime example: http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,9273.0.html (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,9273.0.html) I think he killed five deer with it last fall/winter. Can't ask for much better endorsement than that.
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Aosda on April 18, 2009, 01:33:58 am
After seeing your other post, can't wait to see what you turn out with the Hackberry.  Maybe I'll get to that level in 20 years or so :D
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: sulphur on April 18, 2009, 11:17:37 pm
its spring right now so the bark will fall off hackberry, or nearly so.  seal the back and the ends once the bark is off.  hackberry is great bow wood. one of my favorites and its super easy to work.  it steams wonderfully.  make it 2" wide and only slight longer like 66" tip to tip. 
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Badger on April 18, 2009, 11:54:22 pm
Hackberry can make some excellent recurves, it is fairly light and there is literaly no wood in the world that staem bends as easily as hackberry. I used to buy every piece I could find on e ebay. It bends so easily you can make the asiatic type designs, or any other design you choose for that matter and come out looking like a pro. It is best left a little on the wide side, I like to keep mine around 2" wide for 50# bows 62" long for instance. Steve
Title: Re: Question on Hackberry.
Post by: Kent D. on April 20, 2009, 04:51:48 pm
Thanks everyone.  AS you might have noticed by my other post, I harvested some the other day.   Ive got this stuff growing all around me.  I can't believe ive been ignoring this wood for so long.  Ive been so caught up with Osage, that ive put hackberry on the back burner.   I think I might go out and get more in the next few weeks.  I do  have to say, it was a piece of cake removing the bark.