Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: hawkbow on May 26, 2009, 12:05:58 am
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We went out on the lake this weekend with JoeYork aka wolf Watcher.. he took the whole family and my inlaws out on his jet boat the WAVE DANCER.. had a great time flying across the water, did some fishing and had lunch on the shoreline.. we hnted the elusive carp for two daysfrom the boat but had no luck.. after Joe left for home the boys and I found a hidden inlet and managed to harvest some with our bows, good fun in the shallows.. hope you all enjoy.. Hawk Thanks Wolf Watcher for the good times on the water..
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great stuff guys! awesome little water holes your huntin. no waders either. sweet!
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Good job, Man oh man I need to get out there and find some. Kenneth
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Looks like fun guys - them smiles prove it was ;D.
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Great!!!
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That is a lot of fun! Looks like you guys had a blast.
Tracy
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Hawk, I was afraid that after bunny season had ended for you all, that these great images taken by Stacey of you and your family enjoying the brotherhood of the bow would end until next season. I'm so glad my fears were not realized. Between turkey hunting and now carp hunting I still get to enjoy your outdoor world. Thanks so much for sharing these with us here on PA.
Dave
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Cool pics 8). What are you using for arrow heads there? They are a bit hard to see but they look a bit different from what I usually see.
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Thanks for sharing! I've heard some say carp ain't fit to eat and some that say it ain't too bad if you just know how to fix it. What's you all's opinion?
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I wish I could join you Hawk! ;D You and your family always know how to have a great time, ;) and it seems that Stacey has a steady job capturing it all 8) She's awesome with her camera! Thanks for sharing - Joe H
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Looks like a happy hunting party.Nothing like time with the family.Good hunting-Lloyd
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Lloyd, hope we can get back there soon, they were just starting to spawn...hundreds of them..... Hawk
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barrage, we used two types of points one folding fish arrowFG.. and the other was bamboo,made for josiah by michbowguy... I will try to get some closeup pics to show... happy hunting Hawk a/ho
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Nice pics and looks like a great time out there Hawk. I'm very impressed with how much you are always teaching and inspiring our youth to carry on the tradition. Would love to get out and hunt with you all someday. ;)
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anytime brother, we hunt hard, play hard and work hard.. keeps us out of trouble that way..
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Mike, shoot'in them carp is a blast aint it! Me and outbackbob went out saturday afternoon for a couple hours and got three of them a piece and we both missed a few shots too....what a fun way to spend a afternoon!
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Went out again with Wolf watcher and josiah.. we got 87 between us will post pics soon.. hawk
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Good shooting Hawk and Josiah, I might try to get out after them this afternoon. Do you have any tips? Looks like you just wade and stalk? Do you use lines attached to the arrows? I have read that these fish die easily and can be retrived with out a cumbersom line. Also have you tried these fish on the table, every one says they are full of bones, but I don't see how they can have different bone structures than trout or pike that have more bones than bass or crappie. I guess I will have to try some to get my own oppinion. You could do as the Native Americans showed the Pilgrams and use for fertilizer. We used to catch them by the busshells in Texas as they always bit and got big. By the way the economy is going we might all have to subsist off them as I know they would outlast big game by far. Kenneth
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I get the feeling Hawk's not eating these fish. Not just killing for target practice are ya Hawk? :'(
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Its not the bones Kenneth. They taste pretty much exactly how they smell......like fish slime! Saying that these things dye easy couldn't be anymore untrue. I carry a tomahawk to club them once I get them in the boat, I've smashed the heads off of them and their still flopping around in the bottom of the canoe. They can survive for literally hours out of the water with hole shot clean through them. I've tried cooking them several times, it is edible if you were starving but its defenetly not to tastey..... :-\
coyote pup, you could kill as may of these fish as you can and it wouldn't even effect the population. They spawn a new crop every summer and they grow very quickly and almost nothing kills them especially once the get to a certain size. You have to try to control the population some how.
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Well they are a trash fish and not good for the native fish habitat. They are kind of like prarrie dogs, I kill every one I get the chance at on my property, and don't feel obligated to eat them. I was just wondering if they get a bad rap as far as table fare goes. Does any one have experience with eating these fish? I have heard that they are like salmon if canned, Canning just seems like a lot of trouble if they can be used in other ways. Kenneth
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Thanks for the report Ryan. I have heard it both ways terrible or ok. I have heard also it depends if they are from fresh running water or stagnant dirty water. I know you are right that they take over so fast they can't be thinned out, much less eradicated. I wish I would of had a few to have planted with all the trees my wife has been planting. kenneth
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As for eating carp, the Europeans consider them a sport fish and good table fare ??? They are fun to catch on a hook and line as they fight like hell.
Here on the great lakes they get real big but they are also on the do not eat list as they collect huge amount of toxins. They are an invasive species
and are prolific spawners, also they generally spawn after other fish and in the process of spawning they stir up the silt which settles on the eggs of gamefish and smother them.
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Me and dad made up some dough bait and caught a bunch one summer when I was about fifteen. We were just catching them for fun but took some home and preassure cooked them (bones and all) then added seasoning, crackers and eggs - fried em up like salmon patties. Wern't too bad ::).
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Coyote pup, as has been said, carp are not native here, and the introduction of carp to our waters was one of the biggest ecological blunders in the history of our ecologically-blundered-up country. They are extremely destructive to the environment-if I could kill every one of them in North America today, I certainly would. And Kenneth, they taste just about like Ryano said-not good eating at all, and I love fish. They are edible, but so is grass and pine bark......:)
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Hillbilly's points are right on target. Where we were shooting the carp was in one of many shallow coves on a big lake. When they spawn the carp move into these coves by the hundreds. Their numbers are devastating to the native fish. I suppose as far as eating them it would depend on the time of year. When they have spent some time in the deeper clear water they might be OK, but during the time of spawn I would rather survive on most anything! :-\ The game & fish will poison them when they take over a lake and that kills all the other species. It takes those fisheries years to recover even when replanted! The birds like them and we can use them for bear bait in non grizzly areas. They are tough! I think my kill count would have doubled if my arrow would have penetrated every time one was hit. You can actually see it glance off, especially on their head! Trying to shoot them is one of a stick bow archers best challenges. Wish you could have been there to try your hand at them! a/ho Joe
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Too bad we are no longer allowed to bait bears in Colorado, What a perfect use for these fish. The best we can do for bears is to hunt over legally killed gut piles or other natural food. Like Josie Whales said buzzards have got to eat the same as worms. Kenneth
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anybody save the skins for bow backings? they look kinda neat.
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I think you would have to pull the scales off one at a time with pliers, and the hide is thick and tough, don't see why they wouldn't work though
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Common carp have no pattern to them like grass carp do. I tried it before it just looks like scaley raw hide, not pretty.
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Pappy made a bow with a carp skin on it, don't know if was a commom or a grass carp, but I thought it looked sharp. I think he won "bow of the month' for it too. He gave it to Chris, "sodbuster" for a elk shed. Brother Dan
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Hey Kenneth, Couldn't you hunt over fresh killed, Carp, Gut piles? ::) 8) ;D
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Hang the fish and make a couple of cuts near the tail deep enough to cause good bleeding. Let them bleed out. Fillet without ever messing with the skin or the guts. Big pretty bone free for the most part white slabs of fish to be cut into portions. Cut about half an inch thick, roll in breading of choice, and deep fry hot. Never had any turned down by anyone that did not already know it was carp and did not want it before they tasted it.
Maybe it depends on where you get them from.
I learned about bow fishing standing on a fallen tree over a creek while others beat a beaver pond to cause them to flee upstream past me.
Guess what happens when the fish arrow hits a 45 pound carp in the back of the head with a 90 pound string on it attached to you standing on a log over the creek!
For eating you want the larger fish where you can fillet off big clean portions.
Hunting carp with a bow is right up there near the top on the list of things to do with your clothes on!
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Looks like a good time, I remember when you was a youngun and we had to strip down to cross the river in jan. in montana just to hunt whitetails, cause none of us had waders. reminds me of them times. Have fun and teach them well....Brokenhand....Aho
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I always thought you had waders but were just too tough to use them... LOL Hawk
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I love to shoot carp, some really big boys here, but I have never gotten a use for them so I hate to kill them, I h ave heard you have to remove a large vein that runs along the fish to make it edible, but I have never seen them cooked to satisfaction, and they smell terrible, and will smell up your trunk really bad, try removing that smell!