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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: recurve shooter on September 18, 2009, 08:37:02 pm

Title: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: recurve shooter on September 18, 2009, 08:37:02 pm
whats up guys? i found a toilet tank and hit it with a rock, so now i have a few slabs of "john stone" to play with. i have been able to create some point shaped things from glass, but this stuff confuses me. i think your supposed to knock off big flakes, then pressure flake those right? i cant figure out how to get off big flakes. i can only get em about the size of my thumb nail. help please.
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: warhawk on September 18, 2009, 08:40:26 pm
i never tried toilet.
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Jaeger on September 18, 2009, 09:19:10 pm
fragile stuff it is hard to do anything with,but you can make a point out of it ,it will crumble like chalk if you are too ruff with it.
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: recurve shooter on September 18, 2009, 10:08:27 pm
huh. guess i'll stick to glass for now.  ;D
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: leapingbare on September 18, 2009, 10:44:51 pm
  Keep knapping the jhon stone. its very good to learn on. if your platforms and angles arnt just right your flacks will stall out.
 Learn to knap the johnstone and your do good on everything else.
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: nugget on September 19, 2009, 12:53:22 am
Thunder chert will tell on you real quick. If your platforms are not correct it will let you know.
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: recurve shooter on September 20, 2009, 11:24:54 am
cool. but how do i do it? its bout a half inch thick. do i knock off flakes and work them or what?
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: El Destructo on September 20, 2009, 12:52:59 pm
cool. but how do i do it? its bout a half inch thick. do i knock off flakes and work them or what?

Here is a good starter "How To"  for you...just add the www.

paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/4142/t/Johnstone-Slab-Knapping-Tutorial.html
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: smokeu on September 21, 2009, 09:59:06 pm
pretty good!
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Pappy on September 22, 2009, 12:46:15 pm
Here are some from the Classic,them boys knew how to nap Johnstone.And the winner. ;) ;D
   Pappy

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Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 22, 2009, 04:53:39 pm
John stone, thunder chert, poo flint, lotsa common and not so common names.  Leads to too much confusion.  I think we should all refer to it by the technical name that a geologist would use...crapite.
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 22, 2009, 06:29:52 pm
I actually like knapping toiletite. The older tanks especially are pretty good material. Some of the new ones are pretty crappy.

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Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: El Destructo on September 22, 2009, 08:03:28 pm
Them are something else Steve....would never guess that they were Thunderchert....look almost like Novaculite in a Way!
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: recurve shooter on September 22, 2009, 10:20:05 pm
wow. you guys know your stuff. the stuff i got is out of an old streamline camper i found in the woods.....well.....more of a streamline pile of twisted tin and glass with a tree ontop of it and small oaks growing out of it. been there for a while. so i went after it with a crowbar and axe and found the toilet, busted off the tank, and hauled it back home. guess i got to get to practiceing. thanks for the replies guys!

hillbilly, thats awsome work man. hopefully one day i'll be able to make a sharp, point shaped object.  ;D
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Pappy on September 23, 2009, 06:59:49 am
Very nice Hillbilly,You may be our new champion this year with stuff like that.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: cowboy on September 23, 2009, 08:58:35 am
Those are nice Mr. Steve knapper extrordinair ;D.
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Stoker on September 23, 2009, 10:56:37 am
Wow those are some good looking points Hillbilly.
How functional is johnstone for hunting?
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Jaeger on September 23, 2009, 11:34:56 am
here is some I posted a whiole back but for some reason ,I am breaking everyone I try now.

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Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Outbackbob48 on September 25, 2009, 09:33:18 pm
Steve, Man those are the nicest Jonnystone points that I,ve ever seen.  After all that rhyolite , porcelin must be  a cake walk for you.  :>}   Again great points. Bob
Title: Re: porcelin? serriously? whats the secret?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 26, 2009, 08:49:24 am
Thanks, guys. Stoker, I think good johnstone would probably make a pretty lethal hunting point- it breaks sharp, I've cut myself to the bone working it before.