Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Hillbilly on September 27, 2009, 10:20:41 pm
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Here's the (late) knife that I made for Nugget in the knife swap. Blade is midnight lace obsidian, handle is cholla cactus, osage, purpleheart, and burl mahogany. Blade is 6 1/2" long, 11" overall. Sheath is poplar bark and cherry bark.
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Dang son That is NICE! Really nice work. Is that FOG or from a blank?
Sheath is also too cool. True one of a kind.Nugget......you should be a very happy man.
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Tim, it's FOG (see, Eddie, I play with dental tools, too every now and then... :) ). I don't do much FOG work, but it sure makes some purty knife blades.
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What does FOG mean? sure is some beautiful work the knife blade and handle.
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Heck! I been knappen a bit too and never heard that term either!
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truly outsatnding work! both the sheath and the knife are gorgeous. that blade just looks perfect
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Thanks, guys. Jaeger, FOG=Flake Over Grind. It's a technique that a lot of knappers use nowadays to get those perfect-looking blades and points that you see in pics. It's just patterned pressure-flaking over a cut/smooth ground slab. The ancient Egyptians were probably the first to do it on their Gerzian knives, but they used hand-grinding on a slab of sandstone instead of a diamond wheel. It's a lot easier than percussion knapping, but it makes some purty stuff because you're starting out with a smooth slab and can get a regular flake pattern going without having to deal with irregularities on the face of the point.
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Very nice knife and sheath, Steve. 8)
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Anyway that You Cut It Steve....Thats a Purdy Lookin Blade........ 8)
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FOG stand for "Flake over grind" Basically you have a blank in the shape of the point and you grind the edges to a bevel then pressure flake them.Sounds easy...but it ain't! One wrong flake and the whole piece is messed up. It's a true art form and gets a bad rap from some in certain circles. I for one am fasinated by it and the beauty that can be produced.
I have often wondered if the paleo period had the technology to do it? I mean there are some very finely worked paleo pieces.
What do you think Steve?
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Sorry to post over you there Hillbilly!
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Tim, the Egyptians and Danes were doing it a long, long time ago.
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See, I done went and posted over you now. ;D
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Great work Steve, I think I like the sheath more than the knife :)
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Well, I already posted over on the kith thread but I have to tell you again Steve that is a beautiful knife!!!! :) -josh
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Great lookin' knife. How do you use the cholla cactus as a handle material? Isn't it hollow? I'd love to see a build a long on how to attach a blade to it.
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Shawnee, it's hollow, but the hollow part in the center is pretty small, the walls are thick. I just cut a slot and haft the blade in it like you would with any other material. That one actually has some wood glued to the end that the blade is hafted into, but I've hafted them directly into the cholla before with no problem, like this one:
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Thanks again Steve. I can't wait to see it in person. The second knife you posted is also beautiful.
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that cactus is something exotic to me ,I forgot to brag on the sheath it all look very very good to me !
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Thanks again, guys. TJ, that yaller one lives with Eddie (Madcrow.)
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Steve,
When I saw the first pic, I thought it was from the purple glass slabs we were working on at the Knap-in. Do you do your own grinding? And Yep... That is one pretty knife? Awsome sheath also!
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cool knife steve where do you get the catus
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That is one fine piece of rock:)
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Steven, no, I don't have a grinder. I think I got that preform from Craig Ratzat. That glass we were working would make nice knife blades, it's about the same consistancy as obsidian. Bryan, I got it from Cowboy on here.
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Hillbilly, you can stabilize that stuff with pine pitch. tai goo likes to use it on some of his knives and thats what he does. (primitive stabilizing) He takes his pitch and mixes bees wax and deer dung with it. He just boils the cholla in the primitive epoxy. looks great also.
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Great lookin' knife. How do you use the cholla cactus as a handle material? Isn't it hollow? I'd love to see a build a long on how to attach a blade to it.
I did a Build-A-Long on a Cholla Cactus Knife already
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,13252.0.html
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cool knife steve where do you get the catus
Want Some?? PM Me........
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Steve
Beautiful knives. The flaking is outstanding. Also the sheath and handle work is awsome, great job.
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All i can say is wow :o
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Steve, sometimes I think you seriously underrate your knapping ability :o
Both of those knives are nothing less than spectacular pieces of art!
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Hillbilly, that's a beautiful piece of work no matter how you cut it (so to speak). I never the heard the term FOG before either, but find the idea interesting. I don't have anything but spalls, but it seems as though it might be possible to flake a spall reasonably flat, do some grinding on it to clean up the edge and increase my chances of getting a decent flake pattern, which is not my best suit. The Egyptians and Danes probably didn't work from slabs; or did they. Anybody know?
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Thanks again. Shannon, I don't do it enough any more to keep in practice. I make something decent now ans then, but break ten in the meantime. Newbow, yep, they percussioned out a preform and then hand-ground it slick.
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Purdy nice knive and sheath. And I learned what fog was ???
Thanks Leroy
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That's a beauty Steve!
Alan
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El Destructo, t hanks for pointing me to the build-a-long. Gonna have to try that when I can come up with some of the cactus to use for handle material.
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Steve, You are one very talented hillbilly :>}. I didnt realize that you were in to Plant I.D. I f I ever get to the south again we need to go for a little plant walk, Always am amazed at how many plant are they same as here only miles an miles apart. Later Bob
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I recieved it today. It is bigger than it looks on the pictures. Thanks again Steve. I have a spot all picked out to display it. In My hand. ;D
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outstanding craftsmanship
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Sweet,that is beautiful,don't know how I missed it.Very nice work. :)
Pappy
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Hillbilly,
What a beautiful set!! The talent on this forum just amazes me. Being so new to all of this, I can't believe what you guys can do with your hands and simple tools!! And to think we consider this primitive! Thanks for sharing with us.
Chasing Crow
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Outstanding Steve. Excellent as always!
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Those are sweet Steve! Very beautiful work! :)