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Title: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Josh on November 16, 2009, 11:48:31 am

This is my first attempt at a laminate bow.  Hickory backed Ipe with Ipe and Hickory tip overlays.  Alternating Ipe and Hickory for the handle riser. 50lbs @ 28".  62" NtN.  I think it turned out okay for my first of this design.   This thing is stinkin fast too.   I ran into a few problems with it like the handle riser popping off.   I thought I left the ipe thick enough in the handle area to keep it from bending but I was wrong.  Next one I will put a tapered piece of wood in between the backing strip and ipe.  So I had to dowell it and wrap it to keep the handle on but after 200 or so shots it has held and shows no sign of coming off again.  Thanks for looking.   :)  -josh

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Title: Re: HBI R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Hoot on November 16, 2009, 11:58:30 am

I think you did a fantastic job.  A real fine bow.   Sounds like with the experience you already are figuring out what to do next.  Is the handle radiused or is it flat?
A radius in the handle may help to keep it from popping off too, but a flat riser with a "power lam" may still want to pop too.....

Title: Re: HBI R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Dean Marlow on November 16, 2009, 12:39:18 pm

Good job for your first glue up. It looks like your bow is doing of it's bending right out of the fades on your full draw picture. It may be just the angle of the picture. Next time try to get a little more bending on the outer half of your limbs. Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: HBI R/D (first attempt)
Post by: zeNBowyer on November 16, 2009, 01:20:05 pm

Go  Southpaw:)

Title: Re: HBI R/D (first attempt)
Post by: mullet on November 16, 2009, 01:23:07 pm

 Nice looking bow.

Title: Re: HBI R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Josh on November 16, 2009, 01:24:53 pm

thanks for the replies guys.

The bow does look like it is bending too much at the fades, but from the midlimb on to the tips is curved out and in the full draw pic it straightens out so I thought it was doing its fair share of the work, but this is my first attempt.  How much should it bend from mid limb then?   It seems that any more than just straight would be bending too much to me.  and yes zen, completely left handed, lol.     :)  -josh

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on November 16, 2009, 08:48:55 pm

Josh Nice job, looks like a speedy bow to me. 

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Jesse on November 16, 2009, 09:19:56 pm

I'm sure that is a fast bow you made there ;). Looks real good too.  The bending might be a tad focused on a short area but I also noticed that it retains good reflex when unstrung so I say great job 8)

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Rich Saffold on November 16, 2009, 11:51:43 pm

Frankly I like that tiller ;D If these bows  bend too much in the outer limbs than they are just sorta fast.. How they shoot, the limb movement, and the set they take is what I base tillering these bows on...

Looks real good Josh, and sometimes these bows really like to bend through the grip because of how they tiller out so they need a bit more mass there to resist it.. ;) 

Rich

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Justin Snyder on November 17, 2009, 09:45:37 am

Very fine looking bow. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Okie on November 17, 2009, 11:35:41 am

Great job on your first lam. I think a power lam would solve your handle problems.

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: OldBow on November 17, 2009, 11:40:48 am

Great bow and bookmarked for Nov BOM Laminates

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: medicinewheel on November 17, 2009, 01:43:20 pm

Nice bow!

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: bigcountry on November 17, 2009, 05:58:14 pm

I know you guys know what your doing but it just scares the life out of me seeing that much bend right out of the fades.  I think it would be hard for me to tiller a heavy R/D bow. 

Good job.

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Josh on November 17, 2009, 10:17:02 pm

thanks everyone.  my next one will bend more mid-limb, have a deflexed handle, and a power lam.  :) :) -josh

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: radius on November 18, 2009, 11:04:37 am

 i like it too.  In fact it looks like a holmegaard tiller, with long unbending outer limbs and short bending limbs givin'er right outa the handle.  good workmanship.

That's edge-grain hickory, right?  How about the ipe?  does it even show yearly rings?

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Josh on November 18, 2009, 11:09:03 am

you cant see any of the rings in the ipe.  Thanks, Scott!  :) -josh

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Pappy on November 18, 2009, 11:20:13 am

Very nice looking bow Josh,well done. :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Josh on November 18, 2009, 11:34:44 am

thanks, Pappy!   :)

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: dragonman on November 18, 2009, 01:34:53 pm

nice bow, what do I know? but to me, when i see the unstrung profile, your bow doesnt look like it has took a set right out of the fades, so even though it looks like it bends too much there if it hasnt crushed the wood and it took no set there, then you got it right and just made a fast bow!

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: radius on November 18, 2009, 01:36:30 pm

there ya go Josh, listen to dragonman!  He really knows how to make bows.

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: radius on November 18, 2009, 01:37:10 pm

yeah, the more i look at this thing the more i think it rules.

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Josh on November 18, 2009, 01:40:45 pm

thanks a bunch scott!    I think it rules too. It's nothing compared to what I ahve seen you do to some wood though...   :)  -josh

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: radius on November 18, 2009, 01:47:17 pm

don't sell yourself short.  you had a big mess, you solved it, and made a wicked bow.  That makes you the man.  I'd even trade ya that one for one of mine, but to be honest i'm unreliable!  haha

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: dragonman on November 18, 2009, 03:43:09 pm

thanks  radius (dont think i deserve that though)

Title: Re: Hickory-Backed Ipe R/D (first attempt)
Post by: Ryano on November 18, 2009, 03:43:45 pm

The mid limbs definitely need to bend more on the next one. Good job for your first attempt though.  ;)