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Title: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Rich Saffold on January 06, 2010, 03:05:54 pm
Here is my latest bow   70"ntn 63#@29"  I got some real nice straight wood from Tim Ott, and Thanks again!. I  always wanted to try a bow like this, and I'm sure its not the first one like this, but for me it is and I never seen one which made it more interesting. I hope like the IBI I posted that a few others here give this style a shot.



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Sourswithhawk/Bows/132.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Sourswithhawk/Bows/134.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Sourswithhawk/Bows/131.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Sourswithhawk/Bows/135.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Sourswithhawk/Bows/139.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Sourswithhawk/Bows/fd2.jpg)

I'll put more pics and edit these soon after I put a grip on it.
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Josh on January 06, 2010, 03:09:12 pm
NICE!!!!   :)  -josh
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: DanaM on January 06, 2010, 03:31:26 pm
Looks simple, clean and deadly Rich :)
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Keenan on January 06, 2010, 04:21:54 pm
 Very nice bow Rich, Glad to see that your still venturing into uncharted territories. ;)
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Pat B on January 06, 2010, 04:54:35 pm
Very nice, Rich. Such a skinny little thing!  I like everything about it.   
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Justin Snyder on January 06, 2010, 05:08:00 pm
Sweet bow Rich, nice profile. You cant tell from the pictures that it is backed.
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Dano on January 06, 2010, 05:21:44 pm
Rich, another fine bow, awesome profile, I bet it flat zipps em arrows.
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Rich Saffold on January 06, 2010, 06:11:27 pm
Thanks guys!,

 Like the other bow its really more of a laminated bow  since now that I really look at the glue line it is around 50% in the handle section and about 70% backing at the tips. 

Dano, yer right ;) its a fun bow to shoot and handles lighter than usual arrows without any thump too..

Pat, I had to chuckle since I just rode back from the Campus Pool and your post kinda describes the lifeguard today. but she had more of an "Ipe tan".

Keenan. Brock Johnson mentioned he had made a bow like this. Maybe he will chime in..It's hard to think of truly unique combinations which would perform at a high level, and hopefully by the end of the day I'll have a string on one thats Ipe backing osage. Tim gave me some fine wood and I really am enjoying it.

I can't harvest osage here..at least legally..we do have 3 trees in town that look pretty straight too...

Thanks Josh and Dana M..If Tim has more of this wood, I bet it won't last long.. ;D

Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: bcbull on January 06, 2010, 07:49:50 pm
HEY  RICH JUST GOT TO MY ROOM  I WAS IN N CAROLINA  IM IN MARSHALL  NOW GOT IN AT 2 AM  NOW CUTTIN OSAGE STAYIN WITH BUDDIES AS ROADS ARE SNOWED IN I RELLEY LIKE THAT BOW LOOKS GOOD  KENEEN  I MADE ONE LIKE THAT A YEAR AGO WITH IPE AND A 1/8  OSAGE BACK  CAME IN AT 43 LBS   RELLEY ZIPPED A ARROW WAS AT 186 ON CRONO  I  PLAN TO MAKE ANOTHER HIGHER POUNDAGE TO HUNT  WITH SOON   BROCK
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 06, 2010, 08:31:23 pm
Good looking bow Rich
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: zeNBowyer on January 06, 2010, 10:59:37 pm
I'de hafta  agree-that's  sweet:)
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Jesse on January 06, 2010, 11:02:59 pm
That  looks great Rich. Never thought of that. how did you find osage worthy of using as a backing?
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Rich Saffold on January 07, 2010, 02:17:17 am
Jesse, I've always wanted to use Osage as a backing, and  like any good self bow wood its strong in both tension and compression which allows this style of bow to work.This bow is like a straight self longbow split down the middle and re-glued in a r/d limb profile. Of course being clean , straight-grained is necessary, and getting these edge-grained slats from Timo made it possible. 

"Backed" may not be proper terminology, but I have a hard time with "laminate" in this case..Sounds to compromising or "modern" ;)

Thanks Marc, I've seen your longbows and I hope you try one of these.  Cost, ease of construction, and performance may be obvious, but the real reason it's different enough to Keep it interesting.

Thanks Zen, This bow taught me a bundle and I plan on many more..

Rich

Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Keenan on January 07, 2010, 02:24:08 am
Wow Rich that is some good food for thought, I bet the ipe combo would be good.

Bcbull, thanks for the input. nice to hear what is possible. 183 at 43 lbs is impressive.
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: aznboi3644 on January 07, 2010, 02:42:05 am
how is it tillered so that at full draw it looks as if the handle area looks like it is only bending?

I like this different style
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Rich Saffold on January 07, 2010, 03:27:27 am
Keenan, Thanks, I was hoping to create a little excitement/interest because this place has a lot of talented bowyers who can make very good use out of two straight yet skinny pieces of wood like I did with these last two bows..It's almost too easy..

 "Almost" since this particular bow is from two edge grained slats so it took a few minutes to figure out which one is the back and the belly and then which way did they go..so I just winged it and lucked out ;D.

Aznboi3644   It's actually a bit of an Illusion and the handle section barely flexes at full draw. if you look at the brace photo and  full draw there isn't much difference, but the whole bow is bending except for the last few inches. This is one of the reasons I like this style since every bit of it is working, and I'm trying to get the most out of the bow without stressing the wood beyond its capabilities..  The other reason is I think these skinny curvaceous bows are rather sexy...

and nearly center-shot :D

Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Pappy on January 07, 2010, 06:06:08 am
Great looking bow Rich,simple and sweet.Looks like a shooter to me.Can't remember seeing and Osage backed Osage before.Cool. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: nathan elliot on January 07, 2010, 01:56:03 pm
Really nice bow, I love the tiller. Gives this rookie something to aim for!

Nat.
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: OldBow on January 07, 2010, 01:58:25 pm
Whew - The French would be wary of this one! Quite the weapon. Bookmarked for Jan Laminate BOM, too.
Title: Re: Osage backed osage longbow
Post by: Rich Saffold on January 07, 2010, 02:55:44 pm
Thanks Pappy, I'm glad you like it, and figured you would know if someone was building these.

Nathan Thanks this bow after getting into the form was rather easy to finish.

Oldbow Thanks, I'm working on an article for PA on these bows and have it about half done. I just wanted to mention this, and have to see how a couple more of my experiments/prototypes come out before I'm done.  I'll try and get some better pics in the coming days.

Rich