Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: youngbowyer33 on January 16, 2010, 03:16:26 pm
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does anyone have a picture of a perfect or almost perfect till for a pyramid style bow? Im in the process of tillering one and i dont know how it should look. thanks
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youngbowyer,
Here is a pick of the real deal....for whats it's worth
half eye
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okay Half-Eye I get why you posted that pic but I better not see anyone start posting their full draw pic posed like that gentleman.... :D :o
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Youngbowyer...This one here strikes Me as about as nice a Tiller as You can expect from a Pyramid Bow...and it's good lookin too!!!
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,17066.0.html
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LMAO :D halfeye your sick!!
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i just got a new bow in the mail
i think when i post pics,the full draw will be just like that pic but without the rock >:D
stayed tuned for tomorrow i will be starting a new topic with pics of this incredible weapon ;)
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i just got a new bow in the mail
i think when i post pics,the full draw will be just like that pic but without the rock >:D
stayed tuned for tomorrow i will be starting a new topic with pics of this incredible weapon ;)
Please Tim...Keep Yer Pants On......... ;D
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Youngbowyer,
Half eye is only partially right with his pic, you don't have to hold the arrow primitive style (pants are optional).
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A true pyramid front view bow,calls for a circular tiller.
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Thank You for sharing that photo !!! What is the origin ??? The symmetry of the bow is perfect, and done in the most primitive of styles no less. When you compare how far we've come collectively as a civilization, nobody seems to be able to come up with an all wood bow that is going to perform leaps and bounds better than that one !!! I really like the fact that we can put literally millions of bits of info on a microchip, but can't do the same with a selfbow !!! How would you like to be able to watch him craft his bow with the most basic of tools that likely he made also?? He's got great form too :^) !!!
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A true pyramid front view bow,calls for a circular tiller.
Care to tell us why?
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See TBB vol 4 and read Badgers chapter he explains why the front view profile should define the tiller, whether circular or elliptical.
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See TBB vol 4 and read Badgers chapter he explains why the front view profile should define the tiller, whether circular or elliptical.
Ditto
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Dana, i see your new signature line.did you quite smoking recently?
if so good for you. ;) :)
it three yrs next month on my b-day for me ;D
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At least he doesnt have a more open stance. ;D
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Dana, i see your new signature line.did you quite smoking recently?
if so good for you. ;) :)
it three yrs next month on my b-day for me ;D
Sure did Tim 7 days today, I finally quit because "I" wanted too not because other people wanted me too ::)
Feel down right fiesty ;D
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Good for You Dana...now you only have 20 years to go to get to where I am Today..... >:D....Hey it only gets easier...and things start to smell and taste a whole lot better as you go too...and you and your House will smell better also....... :P
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I quit smoking two years ago this May one of the hardest things I have ever done... Congrats Dana! Don't give in to temptation it is totally worth it!
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Dana, i see your new signature line.did you quite smoking recently?
if so good for you. ;) :)
it three yrs next month on my b-day for me ;D
Sure did Tim 7 days today, I finally quit because "I" wanted too not because other people wanted me too ::)
Feel down right fiesty ;D
well god for you,that the only way its gonna stick too.if you want to quit
3 yrs last x-mas i told myself by my b-day i was gonna do it.i was tired of the smell,taste and cost.got my mmind prepared for it and by my b-day
it was a piece of cake.i will tell ya this,you WILL have days that you want one,but kust take them days one hour at a time,then those days get farther and farthe apart.
you can do it,were all cheering for ya brother.heres to a long life
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Haven't been allowed to smoke in da the house in years, food has always tasted great, just tastes a little better now. Just got done with a nice perch fry
and damn was it good ;D
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DanaM, thanks. But I don't see much reasoning there, other than that the pyramid style bows are many times made with little or no thickness taper. I guess that would make the tiller naturally circular. Does that mean a pyramid style bow has to be made without thickness taper to be optimal?
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scp I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer that question. But in theory I believe a perfect pyramid bow will not require any thickness taper and hence
as you say you end up with a nive circular tiller. Sure wish badger would weigh in on this as I'm sure he could explain it.
I do realize there is no "ONE" perfect tiller it all depends on the bow and what one is after.
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A pyramid bow is one of the easiest and best bows around. If the pyramid is equal thickness it should have an arc of the circle tiller all wood bending equal. If you want to optimize it you can play with it a bit. For instance if your draw is 26" and the bow is 68" long you may want to add some thickness taper also and get the limbs working a bit more to the outside for a slight improvement. If you have a shorter bow say 60" and a draw of 28" you may even put a slight reverse taper on the thickness for a bit more bend close to the fade and a little more energy storage. Pyramid by itself is just fine. Lots of us make slight variations of the pyramid. Steve
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DanaM, the mass principle appears to say that we should make tips much lighter as they store much less energy than other working parts. Anyhow there might be too many variables in bow making for us to expect "one perfect tiller" profile even for each specific styles. But that does not mean we cannot rely on the heuristics. I just thought you might wanna share your reasoning with us.