Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: KShip85 on January 16, 2010, 07:12:20 pm
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Ok, well I spotted this trunk earlier in the week and decided to cut it today (gee that new cordless sawsall with pruning blade is handy!) Anyway, I am hoping to get a bow out of it and incorporate the fairly symmetrical deflex reflex already in the timber. Looks like their could be some twist so that has me a little worried, haven't tried working with anything that has twist in it yet! It's well over six and a half feet long right now and the pics will show its thickness. So what do ya think, there a bow in there???
Kip
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the only Problem that I see Kip...is that the Best Rings and the way the Tree grew....the Bow should come from the Left Sjde of the Stave...JMO
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I'd make the bow out of it the way you want even if it isn't necessarily the best part of the wood, it still looks pretty good. I just think the profile on that would look really cool. I'd be tempted to make two, mirror-image, bows out of that one but I'd probably screw it up. I like challenges.
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any of those rings are good,,...ide snap a line and make the stave as best you can centerlined through the handle the way you want it.....
also save or try for two staves, i see a re-flex,and a de-flex.....best of luck....snake
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That is a unique looking piece of wood. If you pull it off it will be an awesome looking bow.
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Actually that could be a naturall R/D on the upside and a set back handle (gullwing or if you flipped the tips a double curve) on the downside...
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If it don't twist like a Sopwith Camel Prop........... >:D
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Yeah, I was hoping I might be able to get a couple staves out of it. I'm going to set it aside for awhile let 'er season and build up some skill before tackling this one. Might split it and chase a ring in a year or so. In the meantime I'm going to house it inside and keep it away from insect damage. In the mean time I've plenty of hackberry to work on as well as another couple Osage pieces and a redbud stave. I've also got some dogwood, hornbeam, hophornbeam, sycamore, hickory, white oak, cherry and redbud to cut. It's getting to the point I almost enjoy getting staves as much as doing something with them once I've got them. Thanks for the well wishes guys, I really hope to do something with this stave down the road.
Kip
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I would split it now. It will check where you don't want it to if the internal moisture has to find it's own way out. Also, the bugs are already eggs laid in the bark in late summer or early fall. When you bring it inside they will think it's their birthday and start eating. :o Split the stave, spray the bark well with a good insecticide and set it in your basement or in the rafters of your garage.
Another option is to cut it in half at the center of the crook and make recurved billets. ;)
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Alrighty Pat, tomorrow I will take to the task of splitting and bug killing and see how bad that spiral is. Would it be beneficial to go ahead and chase a ring and seal it just to get rid of the bark?
Kip
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You don't necessarily have to spend the Time to Chase a Ring right now...but removing the Bark is a Good Idea...then Shellac the whole Stave and put it somewhere warm and dry to season...or get you some Borax or Volk Oil to kill the Eggs that are in the Bark...so the Powderpost Beetles or Borers won't get it.
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You can remove the bark and sapwood but seal it well right away. Then you don't have to use the insecticide. You can go ahead and shape the bow to floor tiller stage without over stressing it. You will have to clamp it to a form to keep it from twisting. At floor tiller stage you could bring it inside in a few weeks. You don't want it to dry too quickly right after cutting.
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If I go ahead and get it floor tillered would clamping it up remove some of the twist that already exists? I'm relatively sure there isat least some, maybe quite a bit.
Kip
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Yes it will. Bend it a little past flat because it will loose some when unclamped. If the twist is severe you will have to use heat to remove the twist. While it is wet steam is the best. When it is dry use dry heat.
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Ok, well I got it split and there was some twist, right in the middle of it too. Not to sure what to do with it now, maybe some billets? I'd still like to get the bows out of it as, but it is going to take some bending to get that done I think. Turns out it's a little over 7 feet 6 inches long. So what do you guys think?
Kip
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get the Bark and Sap Wood off...and try to steam out the Twist on one of them and see where that gets you...you may only get Billets...but I would still try to get a Bow from one...it's worth the time and doing it green will be easier than waiting till it's dry and using Heat...and once you get the Twist steamed out...then you can get Her steamed and clamped down on something to keep her straight....still interested......... ;D
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Alright, well tomorrows work will be getting them to a workable size for steaming. I absolutely am still interested ;D
Kip
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Looking forward to some great character bows from this resource!
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Unique looking staves for sure. If any wood can pull it off, Osage is it! Keep at it Kip!
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Challenging looking stave's. Can't wait to see what you come up with on them. :)
Pappy
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Very interesting piece of wood when you stand them up together like in the last photo the remind me of a girl I used to know.Ron
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LOL
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Ok, well looks like more character keeps appearing. Found a few knots that I did not see with the bark on and it looks a little like I am going to have several things to steam out of it. Besides the 90* twist right at the middle of the
bow the limb that is twisted also has a curve that will need steamed out and the
handle will need to be aligned...man this is turning into a project!
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Looks like fun! :) Jawge
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Nice Challenging piece,for sure.Good luck. :)
Pappy