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Title: Fonud this rock. Any idea?
Post by: bryan irwin on January 17, 2010, 07:56:08 pm
I went on a rock run today and found this. It has grooves cut around it and sorta resembles an axe. What do you think?

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Post by: mrkinsey on January 17, 2010, 08:02:18 pm
were you anywhere near a rock quarry?  That rock looks like it was drilled for dynamite.
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Post by: bryan irwin on January 17, 2010, 08:06:13 pm
no i found a place to get speckled rhyolite and the abo's had been working it there is flakes every where.
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Post by: zenmonkeyman on January 17, 2010, 09:14:01 pm
Just looks like a sedimentary rock with layers of varying hardness that's been rolling on a river/stream bottom.
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Post by: mullet on January 17, 2010, 09:32:06 pm
 It's not an axe. Not with 3 grooves.
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Post by: sailordad on January 17, 2010, 09:47:46 pm
Just looks like a sedimentary rock with layers of varying hardness that's been rolling on a river/stream bottom.

i would agree,looks like natural erosion on it
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Post by: nugget on January 18, 2010, 12:33:29 am
Looks cool. Save it and make something out of it.
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Post by: Pat B on January 18, 2010, 01:34:25 am
Maybe the original owner was using it to test his pecking and grinding techniques!  ;D  My first thought was uneven wear because of un-similar composite materials.
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Post by: DanaM on January 18, 2010, 07:34:06 am
Another s#x rock eh :D
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Post by: cowboy on January 18, 2010, 10:51:59 am
Yup, looks natural to me. I find weird stuff like that in West TX.
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Post by: stickbender on January 18, 2010, 09:42:48 pm

     Looks like a thingamabob to me...... ::)  you could tie a piece of heavy twine to it, and then tie it to a heavier line, and then toss the rock to someone to pull the heavy line in.....or you could use it as a weapon, or a door stop, or paper weight, or wallnut smacker, or squirrel smacker...... ;D  The bigger one does look like a piece of quarry, or road rock that had been drilled for explosives. ;)  What the hell, put it on e-bay, it's better than a potato chip Madonna! ;D

                                                                           Wayne
Title: Re: Fonud this rock. Any idea?
Post by: bryan irwin on January 18, 2010, 10:19:07 pm
Ihear you guy's the only thing thati know i s  that it is rhyolite and was found in a place full of worked rock and flakes and i picked up about 200# of it about 50 feet above the pee dee river in anson co. n.c.
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Post by: stickbender on January 18, 2010, 11:44:53 pm

     Big Pee Dee, or Little Pee Dee? ::)


                           Wayne
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Post by: recurve shooter on January 19, 2010, 10:41:17 am

.....or wallnut smacker, or squirrel smacker...... ;D 

                                                                           Wayne

squirrel smacker? teacher looked at me funny when i busted out laughing lol.
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Post by: StevenT on January 19, 2010, 03:25:32 pm
After the last S#X rock, I was going to stay away from this one. However..... looking at the first picture, I find it real interesting there are two sets of parallel indentations. If you look at them, they line up perfectly across from each other. Not only that, if you look close, both sets angle inward. To me, natural erosion could not have done this. I also have never seen drill holes for blasting this close together or for that matter angled like that. I am gong to suggest another theory... man made. What if this was mounted between the forks of a Y shaped stick. Could it have been used as some sort of hammer or some other type tool? You also have to take into account were it was found. I wouldn't discard it as a S#X rock to quickly. OK, that is my two cents worth.
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Post by: bryan irwin on January 19, 2010, 10:56:33 pm
It was right below the dam on 74 at lilesville. and man this is some tough rock done wore out my copper bopper and broke all my hammer stones. broke some up with a 2# hammer and man the sparkes flew thought i was starting a fire.   ;D
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Post by: mullet on January 19, 2010, 11:27:45 pm
 Steven, I've drilled blast holes, yep, we have drilled them that close. It depends on the charge and what we want to do with it. I had a blasters license in the 70's.
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Post by: JustinNC on October 19, 2010, 04:17:13 pm
Bryan you may be on to something...look at the similarities in the grooves of this axe recovered from Town Creek Indian Mounds verrrrrry close (geologically speaking) to where you found that one at.
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Post by: leapingbare on October 20, 2010, 08:53:56 pm
Being rhyolite i dont think it was natural erosion.
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Post by: arappaho on October 21, 2010, 11:59:31 pm
"better than a potato chip Madonna"
Man, I ought to keep my 2 cents in my pocket on this one, but what the heck. ;D

How about both, natural erosion with a little utilization.
In the first pic, on the left side, you can see vertical ridges running thru the horizontal grooves
that could only remain from natural erosion. But on the right side of the rock you don't see
those ridges, as much. In the second pic the right side of the rock is up and the lower portion
of the grooves seem to show some grinding or wear.
What if someone found this rock in the river, with the grooves allready naturally eroded, and
decided it wouldn't take too much effort to haft it and use it to quarry/spall some rock up the
hill there? Maybe he was lucky enough to get a few hours of use out of it, before the ends got
broken into what we see now.
Just a thought about a really strange looking rock found in an area of obvious activity that makes
it suspicious.
You gotta wonder............. ;)

Joe
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Post by: Bill Skinner on October 24, 2010, 02:50:41 pm
I think Arappaho is on the right track.  Bill
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Post by: leapingbare on October 25, 2010, 07:40:02 pm
I'm with Bill, I think Arappaho got a very good explanation.
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Post by: arappaho on October 25, 2010, 10:53:16 pm
Cool.  ;)