Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Blacktail on January 23, 2010, 12:06:54 am
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o.k. i have an oak bow sinew backed...54"and its at a 5"brace..with my draw at 22" its at 39 pounds....for the state of Oregon to be legal for deer it need to be at 40 pounds..i am trying to figure out how to get one more pound...in fact i am not even going to take out the rasp marks because the is more wood taken off..and i don't want to lose any more weight.....this sound dumb but is there any tricks to get one pound.LOL..john
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Draw it to 22 n 1/2.
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so,you think i just need to give it more draw..o.k. that work for me...i was thinking of maybe bracing it 5 1/4 or 1/2 but i dont know if the little stick can take it..thanks john
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I go with 2 trax on that, or just mark the bow 50#@ 26". How many wardens acrarry a bow scale? Steve
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AHHHHH..now that is smart thinking steve...that sounds great..thanks john
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John, as stated just one more inch of draw should net roughly 3 lbs. When are you bringing it over for me to shoot? ;D After all you know That I have a short draw length. >:D You could also give it another coarse of sinew.
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I go with 2 trax on that, or just mark the bow 50#@ 26". How many wardens acrarry a bow scale? Steve
I agree...... The bow would be really close to 50#@26", so it isn't a lie. They don't need to know you don't draw that far.
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How old is the sinew? If it's new, it will probably pick up draw weight over time anyway. Try putting it somewhere hot and dry for a week, then give it a couple days to reach equilibrium in the house and weigh it again. Or, if you need it tomorrow, just mark it 50#@26" and call it a day. ;)
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John, your bow will likely have a heavier draw by Fall when the weather is drier.
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Work on stretching your draw a bit. A 54" sinew backed bow will easily take a longer draw
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wow,some more great info...well,the sinew is new and i guess with time it will gain weight...and for now i will just pulll a little harder.and mark it for something else...thank so much guys..john
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John...when you are saying NEW....how New is it?? Maybe you should not be pulling it at all....... :-\....I let mine go at least three Months...try to leave them six after finishing...and they are still gaining in drawweight after that
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well the natives hunted from horse back with short bow adn short draws
they could kill bison and many other large game animals with their gear,so i dont think that this
would be bad for deer sized animals.
my state has a minimum draw weight of 35# for deer and turkey
its not so much how heavy a draw your bow has,its got a lot more to do with shot placement
a well placed shot from a 35# bow will kill just as dead as a well placed shot from a 70# bow
dead is dead
as long as you can put the arrow where it needs to be
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Same here in Michigan 35# and our DNR is allways thinking "worst case" so you have pleanty of draw weight for deer. In the 40's and 50's before the DNR had any rules about these things a whole bunch of deer were killed cleanly with 35# bows. Like sailordad said "put it where youre lookin". I wont shoot deer at more than 20 yds tops (my personal descision) and the length of your power stroke should not matter at that range....English archery, flight shooting etc. maybe but not at reasonable hunting ranges.....just the old-guys opinion. Get yerself a good heavy arrow, with a really sharp 2 blade head....that will kill quick and clean.
half eye
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John, if this is a new sinew job, it will definitely gain weight by the Fall. And like Marc noted, such a bow can certainly handle a draw length of more than 22".
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New York minimum is 35# as well, and you can't get much more anal retentive than NY when it comes to all things weapon related. Like Sailordad said, that poundage/drawlength combo would have been taking down buffalo on the plains. I do think it's odd that states only specify draw weight, without coupling it to brace hieght and draw length. You could increase the brace height on that bow and bring the poundage up, but the arrow speed would likely drop due to the reduced power stroke. Odds are though, that the draw weight of that bow will be a whole lot higher in the fall, so it's a moot point. By the way, anyone know the average draw length of African Pygmy elephant hunters?
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If the OP draws 22 inches, he draws 22 inches. Not his fault his arms are short!
There are/were lots of bow designs with a 20"-24" draw length pulling 50 pounds or more. Look at the Hupa, Modoc and other West Coast bows 36-48" tip-to-tip with very short draws and high poundage.
IMHO the OP has plenty of bow to kill even the larger Western deer with a well placed shot. it's up to the state to determine whether this bow draws the requisite poundage; and odds are if Ranger Rick determines the draw weight, he's gonna do it at 28" which is sorta the standard draw length.
If ya really think ya need an extra pound of draw, spiral wrap the whole thing in Camo Duct Tape before you go out in the field :D ;) ;D :o ::)
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Probably looking at about 135 maybe 140 fps with a 500 grain arrow, marginal power, will need a very clean well placed shot or the animal will likley get away wounded.
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Damned Badger you are good!! I took a Hickory Bow that I have that is 65 pounds @ 28 inches...and shot it through the Chronograph at a 22 inch draw....which should have been about 39 pounds @ 22inches...and it regestered 133 fps...with a Port Orford Arrow with a 120 grain field Point weighing in at 538 grains....and I would not trust myself to harvest a deer with a One Shot Kill at them Speeds....JMO