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Title: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Ryano on February 07, 2010, 01:56:04 pm
So I made a bow yesterday out of some Pennsylvania yew. It's made from about a 3" diameter branch, 58" ntn and pulling about 53#@28"  Pretty neat, it has sapwood on both sides of the grip.  1 1/2" wide from the fades for 10" and then tapering straight to 1/2" tips. I didn't reduce the sapwood at all, just used the first ring under the bark.  It started out with about 3" of natural reflex and finshed out with about 1 1/2" all and all I'm pretty impressed with this wood, as I wasnt expecting much after reading some peoples reviews of low density yew.









Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Del the cat on February 07, 2010, 02:06:41 pm
Yup, I think a lot of people express opinion about low ling count Yew when they have never tried it.
Where's the pics?
Del
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Ryano on February 07, 2010, 02:44:45 pm
No pictures yet. It's still pretty rough, fat tips and grip and all and I'm still considering recurving the tips a little. I made this bow from a stave to shooting bow in a couple hours.....
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Keenan on February 07, 2010, 02:45:32 pm
 Ryan, I'd have a hard time complaining about any kind of yew. I think sometimes that when we talk about how good "high ring count yew" is,  that some assume that low ring count must not be good and that just simply isn't the case.
  Yew is a great bow wood period! Low or high ring count.  Where most bow woods are ring specific and you have to have one or the other that just isn't the case with yew.
 Can't wait to see another one of your great bows. ;)
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: radius on February 07, 2010, 03:12:50 pm
Keenan, i do remember you telling me the high elevation stuff is superior...when i get up into the coastal mountains of BC i'll bring some down and see what it can do.  Question for you:  you live on the east side of the Rockies right?  Is it still called Pacific Yew?
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Del the cat on February 07, 2010, 03:25:35 pm
No pictures yet. It's still pretty rough, fat tips and grip and all and I'm still considering recurving the tips a little. I made this bow from a stave to shooting bow in a couple hours.....
A couple of hours? Are you slacking on the job again O:).
De;
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: medicinewheel on February 07, 2010, 04:38:52 pm
Low density yew most likely is a better wood than most other woods; maybe not for a 150# warbow...
Looking foreward for pics!
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Keenan on February 07, 2010, 06:12:23 pm
Radius, I live in Central Oregon on the East side of the Cascades not the Rockies. So yea it's still Pacific yew.  I have found that more then just elevation, that the yew that is on the eastern slope is far tighter rings even down in lower elevations. Mainly due to less moisture.  As I said before I would deem all yew excellent bow wood.  ;D

 Ryan, those dimensions sound like the perfect ambush bow scenario. Really looking forward to seeing thus one ;)
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: radius on February 07, 2010, 06:14:15 pm
Keenan, my bad:  i dunno why i thought you lived over in Montana where Oldbow gets his yew. 

eastern slopes you say:  okay i will take that advice next time i go out yew hunting.  Well, not next time!  Cuz i'm back to the graveyard tomorrow...
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Ryano on February 07, 2010, 11:32:18 pm
Thanks Keenan. I'm amassed at how springy this stuff seems.  Seems to heat correct pretty well to. I though yew was supposed hard to heat bend ?  ???
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Badger on February 08, 2010, 01:08:12 am
I was laways a big adocate of high density yew. I recently made a low density self bow and am happy with it. I have seen some low density pacific grown yew I wasn't happy with, I guess just like any other wood it varies from piece to piece. Was this yew from a private yard or wild? Steve
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Keenan on February 08, 2010, 01:09:53 am
Ryan, Yew heat bends very well and yes it's very springy. Yet be the carefull, you are used to working hard woods and it's easy to get carried away with wood removal on softer wood such as yew.  ;) Don't forget harder tip overlays if your going to use fast flight string ;)
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Ryano on February 08, 2010, 01:14:33 am
 ;D One of the members of my archery club's yard.  He told his wife he had to prune a few limbs that were hanging out over the house.....  :D  ;)

Will do Keenan. Just got done flipping up the tips a little. Strange one limb went with very little heat or pressure the other one didnt want to bend period.... I managed to get it down on the form but pulled a small crack on the belly on the tough side. Hopefully the tips are still thick enough to remove this.... :)
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Josh on February 08, 2010, 02:10:10 am
...can't wait to see it Ryan   :)
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: shamus on February 08, 2010, 08:39:57 am
agh, no pics!


Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Ryano on February 10, 2010, 10:47:24 am
Here's a peak of it.... Notice the sap wood in the sides and belly of the grip area. The sap wood is quite thick on this stave but the thicker on the sides than in the middle due to its small diameter. The tips are almost all sap wood.

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Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew
Post by: Josh on February 10, 2010, 11:07:55 am
That looks good Ryan...
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Keenan on February 10, 2010, 11:35:24 am
That is looks great Ryano.The tip flips look just right and should be really beautiful with the sapwood mixing through the grip.
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Timo on February 10, 2010, 11:52:01 am
That's gonna be perty Ryan! ;)
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Del the cat on February 10, 2010, 01:07:23 pm
I like the way it's hewn out of one piece of timber, looks sorta right...
That grip area looks like it's full of character.
Del
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: medicinewheel on February 10, 2010, 05:40:12 pm
Thought it might have some flip at the tips, though...!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: oneeye on February 10, 2010, 06:14:01 pm
That should be nice !  lets see some more.  Scott
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Blacktail on February 10, 2010, 07:13:39 pm
that is one great looking stick there..i really cant wait to see it all shined up...john
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Gordon on February 10, 2010, 09:07:39 pm
I had no idea that yew grew in your parts. I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished!
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Ryano on February 11, 2010, 12:23:32 am
Thanks Guys.  ;D
Gordon, it doesn't grow here native. It was planted in someones yard as a ornamental tree. We just did a little pruning..... >:D  ;D
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: FlintWalker on February 11, 2010, 12:29:32 am
I see something special about that one Ryan. Maybe another P and Y buck 8)
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Pennhawk on February 11, 2010, 01:27:23 am
Really looks good Ryan. You're a master with a heat gun,I think you could get any wood to bend.
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Pat B on February 11, 2010, 02:03:08 am
I wonder if it is Japanese yew, a common landscape plant/tree. There is a Canadian yew also here on the East Coast.
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Jesse on February 11, 2010, 03:12:04 am
Thats looking nice Ryan. Yew has such a nice color to it. We plant yew here in WI. as an ornamental shrub. I have seen a few big tree size in peoples yards but it takes a long time for them to get that size around here.
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: Pappy on February 11, 2010, 07:16:52 am
Looking good Ryan. I am with you,I started my first yew and am really impressed the way it shoots.
It just seems to love to bend. It looks so much like erc but likes to bend much better. The sap
wood on mine was pretty thick also,I thinned it or I think it would have been almost all sap wood.
Can't wait to see yours finished.I may get mine done someday. ;) :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Low density, low ring count yew (pictures added)
Post by: radius on February 11, 2010, 07:30:38 am

It just seems to love to bend.

I agree, Pappy !   It LOVES to bend...but it also LOVES to snap back to its original shape...when i floor-tiller yew, i always think, "God, it's gonna snap!"  because it can take so much force...but of all my yew bows, only 2 snapped, and they were from a standing dead tree, had serious ring violations, and were quite short.