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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: aero86 on February 07, 2010, 05:32:48 pm

Title: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 07, 2010, 05:32:48 pm
so i was sitting around this weekend and needed some distraction from thinking about adopting another dachshund, (this was a cute black and tan mini male, still thinking about it!).  i decided to get 2 more bags of bamboo from home depot.  i had put together 2 from my last batch already and on saturday i managed to get 11 more put together.  just finished sealing up the fletching ties.  still missing the points though, gotta make those at work.   so now i have time to think about another dacshund! darnit!

they all are the same length, its just the way they are laying..
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/132/l_916fdf33228f4f578cecb7f8e5d5a7d8.jpg)
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: Josh on February 08, 2010, 02:24:36 am
...you are turning into an arrow-making machine man!   Those look good too, wish I had the patience to make that many arrows at once, I have a hard time making arrows, I like to make the arrow launchers so much more!!!!  ... I always seem to have more bows than arrows though...  :-\
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 08, 2010, 09:31:25 am
well, we should be friends then!  i like making the arrows more than bows.  ive got a red oak board bow thats in the final stages of tiller, and its been that way for over a month
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: recurve shooter on February 08, 2010, 10:25:02 am
verry nice. im trying to learn but apparently my patience is non-existant.

Josh, i dont really have the patience to make anything, i just try to do it cuz it leads to me being able to shoot something, which is what i want in the first place.  ;D
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: riarcher on February 08, 2010, 10:33:27 am
 :o NICE!
Hopefully in a couple days I'll have some trinkets heading your way.  ;)

Question -
Trying to orient the knolls (somewhat) evenly from the ends of arrows from one to another doesn't matter??
Only asking because I'm learning and don't know chit.  ::)
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 08, 2010, 11:21:41 am
if i cant get the nodes reasonably flat, then i try to orient them away from the bow, and hopefully its the right side too!  i cant wait to get that stuff riarcher.  i put these together in just a few hours.  got straightening down now so it doesnt take much anymore.
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: riarcher on February 08, 2010, 11:54:24 am
if i cant get the nodes reasonably flat, then i try to orient them away from the bow, and hopefully its the right side too!  i cant wait to get that stuff riarcher.  i put these together in just a few hours.  got straightening down now so it doesnt take much anymore.

I meant spaced from the pointy end of the arrow.  ;)
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 08, 2010, 12:43:06 pm
oh, i got ya now.  nah.  ideally you want one at the front and back to reinforce the nock and point end.  but ive had great luck with my wrapped nocks and my unwrapped hot glued in field points.  off my 40lb bow that is..
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: stringstretcher on February 08, 2010, 02:21:42 pm
aero86.  I learned what I know from a very very experienced arrow maker.  You will find, if you use a spine tester, that the nodes should be up and down on the bow, not facing into or away from it.  All my nocks are cut with the node up and down with the solid side of the cane, perferrable the stiffer side to the side plate of the bow.  You will se a huge differnece in the grouping and shooting.  IMO
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 08, 2010, 03:17:48 pm
thanks for the suggestion stringstretcher.  i have been placing the stiff side to the bow though.  i dont have a spine tester either.
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 08, 2010, 09:55:31 pm
think im ready to go stump shooting!  finished up the field points at work, and got them attached.  when i get my other bamboo from the two other people on here, and my feathers, im gonna have to give these things away!  btw, yes, those are more bamboo shoots next to my pvc quiver, im seeing how long it takes me to make these things.  yes, i have a big problem..


  thats 4" crammed full.

(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/127/l_50d32da1c6ab4929b923f6cf26c6ef83.jpg)
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: mullet on February 08, 2010, 10:32:59 pm
 If you are getting shafts from Home Depot, it is Tonken. So just sand the nodes down to nothing. Won't hurt a thing.
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: riarcher on February 08, 2010, 11:02:39 pm
I see you're experimenting with your nocks.  ;)
Find a preferance yet?
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 09, 2010, 12:03:57 am
well, ive tried a couple different ways so far.  i think it looks best cut at an angle, then filed, but i like the added thickness with the nocks cut straight into it.  i like the extra meat, you might say.  just my preferance though.  also, when i seal my fletch wrapping and self nock wraps, i seal the ends too, just to keep the outside pulling off into little splinters. 

thanks mullet.  i am glad to have more confirmation.  ive had good luck with sanding them down a bit, ill take them all the way down then. 

well, from 7pm to 8pm, i went through the 6 foot sections, culled out the ones that were too thick, straightened them a bit between the nodes, then straightened the nodes a bit, then cut them to length.  815 started bath time, but i got all the nocks cut and most of the shafts straight, except one.  just needs a bit more tweaking.  i should have brought the other field points home to install in theses shafts as well.  i will have 5 total.  so far ive got 1.5 hours into it.
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 09, 2010, 01:53:50 am
so heres my end post.  so, i probably have about 2.5 hours total, after sealing it and adding 10 minutes for adding the points tomorrow.  i think thats pretty decent time

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/113/l_84b094c1b7c546bd8d0f9bf218f466be.jpg)
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: Josh on February 09, 2010, 03:59:29 pm
well you've inspired me to start a dozen tonight... Hopefully I can have them finished by APRIL  ;D  -josh
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 09, 2010, 04:04:44 pm
you can do it!  doesnt take that long.  i enjoy doing this.  i cant wait till i get my 100's of cane shafts. now if i could just be this way with bows..
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: recurve shooter on February 09, 2010, 05:54:51 pm
well you've inspired me to start a dozen tonight... Hopefully I can have them finished by APRIL  ;D  -josh

lol been workin on my 9 for a month or two now. so far, i have them straight. thats about it.  ;D :D
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 09, 2010, 06:31:13 pm
maybe i should try to make a video of my process..
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: recurve shooter on February 10, 2010, 10:48:54 am
definitely. i would sure be interested.
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 10, 2010, 01:04:12 pm
i bought some more last night, ill try to set up a camera to show how i straighten it. 

basically, i take the long piece, look for the straightest section with the least amount of nodes.  then ill check the sections that need straightening. 

i spin that section so that the bend comes to me then away, like forward and back, then i straighten from right to left, using a cloth.  ive found that its usually just bent right by the nodes, so you can do that first.  then i straighten the nodes.  thats basically it.  ill still try to make a video of it. 
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: riarcher on February 10, 2010, 04:46:25 pm
Aero -
you've been PMed!  ;D
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: Pdwight on February 12, 2010, 02:39:20 am
What do you folks seal the shaft with ?

Thanks
Dwight
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 12, 2010, 02:59:42 am
 Don't seal them. U don't need to. Maybe if you sand the nodes you can seal that part
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: Canoe on February 12, 2010, 08:57:36 pm
Howdy aero86 and Group,

So....  Don't you have to spine test those bamboo arrows to match your bow???  (I'm Confused.)


Thanks guys,
Canoe
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 13, 2010, 12:41:37 am
Yes you should ideally. I've just been practicing making.  Sounds backwards I know but yeah
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: riarcher on February 13, 2010, 01:49:55 am
Yes you should ideally. I've just been practicing making.  Sounds backwards I know but yeah

Get rid of this snow and get the saw pulled out,,, we'll work on getting you that tester!  ;)
High on the list of priorities. I need too.  ::)
Title: Re: 13 more..
Post by: aero86 on February 13, 2010, 11:14:53 am
Awesome.  I can't wait.   Especially since u talked me outta those bamboo!  Hehe.